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January 26-27 Storm Threat


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Well hey, we decided this was like an online bar room. And I just poured myself a drink. And I just got the results back from the scan saying my cancer is still gone. So what the hell... Life is good.

:drunk:

Good news my friend, good news. I have a chronic form of Leukemia and am taking Gleevec daily for it. I was diagnosed in early April this past year. I am technically in remission now and will be as long as this drug continues to work and the prognosis is good for me given the 91% survival rate at 10 years for those taking it.:)

Back to your regularly scheduled model watching.

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Hybrid from that vort coming down in northern WI. That essentially drives the path hence the hybrid designation. That supplies the cold air feed as well.

There's always some interaction with the northern stream up here. You're not going to avoid it at 40N in the middle of winter :lol: That's not what distinguishes a Miller B.

Also, that disturbance is hardly providing a cold air feed. It's actually pumping up heights over the northeast and initially contributing to warm advection aloft.

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Good news my friend, good news. I have a chronic form of Leukemia and am taking Gleevec daily for it. I was diagnosed in early April this past year. I am technically in remission now and will be as long as this drug continues to work and the prognosis is good for me given the 91% survival rate at 10 years for those taking it.:)

Back to your regularly scheduled model watching.

Isn't it amazing what our medical professionals have been able to do? Mine was a very rare but very treatable colorectal type. I didn't understand when my doctor told me I should be happy because there are much worse cancers to get. Now I understand.

Best of luck to you.

(...again with the hijacking. Sorry.)

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There's always some interaction with the northern stream up here. You're not going to avoid it at 40N in the middle of winter :lol: That's not what distinguishes a Miller B.

Also, that disturbance is hardly providing a cold air feed. It's actually pumping up heights over the northeast and initially contributing to warm advection aloft.

I think this is an incorrect assessment. Look at my post a few up to bolster the argument. This is not a pure Miller A and shouldn't be considered one. I'm sorry....I refuse to agree based on what I'm seeing.

Now...the incorrect part is this: I think the s/w may initially pump up hts to enable the low to come up the coast but make no mistake about it, those hts will not bring warmth. Maybe you haven't observed enough storms to know that the kind of cold in NNE preceding and during this storm will more than adequately do the deed. Conversely, last year's disaster of the 1888 style NYC blizzard had the opposite problem so even with a bombing low and crashing hts, we were toast.

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Back to the hybrid discussion. Here's the NAM 36 hour sfc prog. See the low near the Lakes...effectively acting in response to the vort moving down and catching the southern storm. If streams phase, then we have something huge but also much greater rain potential.

Jerry, you're not even making the same arguments now. That's not the same low that you were posting about from the GFS. This is at hr36, and that low is with an intial northern stream disturbance in the developing split flow that ends up dampening out southwest of the vortex near Newfoundland. Unless that energy slows and dives further south, and phases with the southern stream wave, it simply helps out a little, strengthening confluence over the region.

Your previous post cited the GFS at hr90 with a completely different northern stream disturbance

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That's what's missing this year - the Cranberry Lambic; good stuff. But I do like the Chocolate Bock. I hate how they put the regular Boston Lagers in the seasonal collections.

Still have some of the Winter Classics variety in the fridge

Old Fezziwig is my fave. Unfortunately they replaced the Cranberry Lambic with Chocolate Stout

What do you think for Tues thru Thurs?

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Jerry, you're not even making the same arguments now. That's not the same low that you were posting about from the GFS. This is at hr36, and that low is with an intial northern stream disturbance in the developing split flow that ends up dampening out southwest of the vortex near Newfoundland. Unless that energy slows and dives further south, and phases with the southern stream wave, it simply helps out a little, strengthening confluence over the region.

Your previous post cited the GFS at hr90 with a completely different northern stream disturbance

I just don't see this a pure southern stream low given the northern stream interraction. Maybe we just don't get Miller A's here but this one is similar to 12/26 which in the end was probably a hybrid. Was 1/12 pure Miller B, Miller A, or hybrid?

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I think this is an incorrect assessment. Look at my post a few up to bolster the argument. This is not a pure Miller A and shouldn't be considered one. I'm sorry....I refuse to agree based on what I'm seeing.

Now...the incorrect part is this: I think the s/w may initially pump up hts to enable the low to come up the coast but make no mistake about it, those hts will not bring warmth. Maybe you haven't observed enough storms to know that the kind of cold in NNE preceding and during this storm will more than adequately do the deed. Conversely, last year's disaster of the 1888 style NYC blizzard had the opposite problem so even with a bombing low and crashing hts, we were toast.

Higher heights are related to greater thickness and are directly proportional to warmer temperatures (hypsometric equation: dz=RT/g*dln(p)

Certainly, we have excellent antecendent cold in place, along with a deep snow pack; will definitely be preventative to an onslaught of warmth.

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Higher heights are related to greater thickness and are directly proportional to warmer temperatures (hypsometric equation: dz=RT/g*dln(p)

Certainly, we have excellent antecendent cold in place, along with a deep snow pack; will definitely be preventative to an onslaught of warmth.

But where? H5? Shouldn't make a difference. Even in our huge NAO's, sfc temps in Greenland with high hts remain relatively cold. So of course higher thickness values typically mean it's warmer. But it depends on whether or not you move from the boreal sub 500 to something in the 530s which is still cold enough vs a 550+ bloodbath.

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