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January 26-27 Storm Threat


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Just read the entire Donnie Baseball post, Blizz had posted snippets ,seriously thinking this might end up the best winter of everyones life. 50 percent chance Boston sees 30 or more inches in Feb!! alone, holy cold too. Boys will be calling for their Mommas, men will be holding babies under their coats while braving the icy death wind trudging through feet upon feet of snow to save the herd. Classic 1800 s winter. Wow

1717 FTW.

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Excellent post. We really need to tone down some of the stuff for this reason but otoh.....maybe we have decided it's an adult bb and that's it. I'm ok either way but would like to be more inclusive of youngsters.

i don't think blizz endores this message......and i don't think we want middle school kids logging on to the board and typing Yippee evertime they see a snowflake. i mean you already have me.

with scott mentioning models maybe having challenges with multiple short waves in the n. stream that reminds of the pattern a couple weeks back when we had to wait for 36 hours from an event to see what would happen ...never mind a consensus

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i don't think blizz endores this message......and i don't think we want middle school kids logging on to the board and typing Yippee evertime they see a snowflake. i mean you already have me.

with scott mentioning models maybe having challenges with multiple short waves in the n. stream that reminds of the pattern a couple weeks back when we had to wait for 36 hours from an event to see what would happen ...never mind a consensus

No, leave the middle school kids to face book and texting each other. I agree / take this forum as a resource. Kids will find their own way here if they are interested. We don't need more ,,,what is it you call them, weenies? I never had a clear definition of one but a middle schooler would most likely fit almost any.

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Excellent post. We really need to tone down some of the stuff for this reason but otoh.....maybe we have decided it's an adult bb and that's it. I'm ok either way but would like to be more inclusive of youngsters.

Thanks for your support, Jerry. (Hope you don't mind me being personal -- I feel like I know you and I always read your posts very carefully. You really teach me a lot.)

I agree it is a decision to be made, but I guess there is really no way to enforce appropriateness or a kid-friendly atmosphere without a lot of moderator headaches. I just accept it how it is, and I have no right to whine about it. I am not surprised when a bar room atmosphere develops in here when a good storm is on the horizon and we start tipping a few back. I do it too, and I don't fault a bunch of happy guys posting about the storms they love.

I try to get my students interested in more than just "Is it going to be a snow day?" And I know the true weather weenies among them will find this place (or others like it) when they get older.

Thanks again for all your posts.

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Well it's nice to see models near and outside the BM, but it doesn't mean much being 4+ days out. It could go either way.

Euro Ens somewhat to the east of the OP. That's normal though, ensembles are usually somewhat east of the parent run.

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the key issue is the northern stream kicker that is near the GL region

that is what keeps the storm from cutting inland.

that looks to be onshore by 12z monday.

nevertheless, at this time, i would go for a severe hit in new england and a moderate event in the HV......in other words, more of the same give or take some fluctuations.

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No, leave the middle school kids to face book and texting each other. I agree / take this forum as a resource. Kids will find their own way here if they are interested. We don't need more ,,,what is it you call them, weenies? I never had a clear definition of one but a middle schooler would most likely fit almost any.

I hear you, but I have a few who even log on to Matt Noyes' video technical discussion, and they want me to decode it for them. I have great discussions with some of those middle schoolers, and I really want to encourage their love and appreciation of weather.

I wish I could send them here, but it's okay that I can't. As you said, they will find their way here anyway, and I am sure they are seeing and reading much worse online!

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There may be 7 or so solutions out of the 51 members of the euro suite that have a solution even deeper than the euro op. Good to see I guess.

We saw a similar ratio with respect to the Boxing day event at this stage....I remember Gibbs divulging that detail; everything ended up ots shortly thereafter, only to come back a tic too far west at the last second.

The 00z EURO will probably be a cape scrape, but I wouldn't worry about it...we are all gonna get crushed imo.

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No I'm not. Dry slot is a synoptic scale feature largely related to the evolution of the mid level low. It has even more right to be considered than weenies debating over one degree variations in 2m temps.

Yes you are.....I understand what a dry slot is, but the primary concern is to get a mainly snow event, at this stage.

Worry about the pivot point later. :lol:

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did anyone else notice the ECM's 240 suggestion of a triple-phased solution?

Wouldn't a triple phase ensure an inside track and cost everyone their snow?

And wouldn't mentioning "triple phase" in the context of a 240 hr get them weenie-tagged (well, maybe not you, but you know what I mean)?

The second question is in jest, but the first is semi-serious, if ignorant -I thought 3X phasing of SWs was extremely rare and the last one was the 1993 storm......

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Sometimes the personal banter is a little annoying, as is all the weenie talk that degrades to near inappropriateness. I am a middle school teacher and I would really love to turn my students on to this board and have them meet all of you, but it really isn't family friendly sometimes. (You all know what I mean.)

There may be school friendly sites to frequent, that have stricter guidelines, and in fact encourage a teenager, learning atmosphere. I think in a forum like this, where anyone can chime in publically opens itself to being something that I would not want kids to be a part of.

I do think it's even possible to have specific threads within the AmericanWX forums site strictly geared towards teenagers, and learning for children, where the guidelines for posting would be stricter. It's my opinion that having strict moderating going on in all of the forums for the sake of a few children who may be logged on takes away some of the comraderie, as well as may keep the place too stale, and sterile.

Just my thoughts.

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Thanks for your support, Jerry. (Hope you don't mind me being personal -- I feel like I know you and I always read your posts very carefully. You really teach me a lot.)

I agree it is a decision to be made, but I guess there is really no way to enforce appropriateness or a kid-friendly atmosphere without a lot of moderator headaches. I just accept it how it is, and I have no right to whine about it. I am not surprised when a bar room atmosphere develops in here when a good storm is on the horizon and we start tipping a few back. I do it too, and I don't fault a bunch of happy guys posting about the storms they love.

I try to get my students interested in more than just "Is it going to be a snow day?" And I know the true weather weenies among them will find this place (or others like it) when they get older.

Thanks again for all your posts.

With all due respect, and understand that I have no say in it anyway, but I don't want to be logging into a board with a bunch of 13 and 14 year olds participating. I enjoy the banter, it's what adults with common interests do.

I'm thrillled that you enjoy teaching, but I really don't want to see this become an extension of a middle school classroom.

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Sorry new here. But why is upton saying rain and snow for coastal ct. I understand there will be a strong in flow off the ocean. But If it passes Near the benchmark Wouldn't the low pull cold air in. Thanks back to lurking to learn more.

Initial look, they will modify as additional dat comes in and a consensus developed. It is what they do to keep the options available.

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Wouldn't a triple phase ensure an inside track and cost everyone their snow?

And wouldn't mentioning "triple phase" in the context of a 240 hr get them weenie-tagged (well, maybe not you, but you know what I mean)?

The second question is in jest, but the first is semi-serious, if ignorant -I thought 3X phasing of SWs was extremely rare and the last one was the 1993 storm......

Again ...just a suggestion...

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I hear you, but I have a few who even log on to Matt Noyes' video technical discussion, and they want me to decode it for them. I have great discussions with some of those middle schoolers, and I really want to encourage their love and appreciation of weather.

I wish I could send them here, but it's okay that I can't. As you said, they will find their way here anyway, and I am sure they are seeing and reading much worse online!

They're not gonna hear anything here they're not hearing any where else. When I was 12 or 13 I knew nothing but playing sports, watching sports, and hoping for snowstorms. The kids today know a lot more about sex and smut than kids did when I was growing up during the 1980s. When I was in 5th grade I had no idea what a boneuh was. Now they're learning about this stuff when they're 8 years old so if a 13-year-old logs onto this site and Rev Kev is talking about his weenie this kid won't be phased about it. He'll be more mad that DT called for him to get 8-12 inches of snow and he ends not getting anything.

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