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Zzzzzzzzzzz. :mellow:

Cloudy, 29F. Few grains in the air from time to time.

Gee, the water content in the snowpack went up quite a few notches in the past 24............

This week has been huge in developing a durable snowpack in this area. My totals for the past 6 days are exactly 20" of snow and likely over 2" of liquid. We got about an inch of liquid during the mid-week storm (12.5" of snow) and then another inch of liquid last night (7.5" snow).

Also, if my crude snowfall tally is anywhere near correct, then we have now passed 100" of snowfall on the season at my location (104" to be exact)... J.Spin is still about 2 feet ahead of me and I think I need to move about two miles closer to the Green Mountain spine to catch him (the gradient is tight on this eastern side).

What had been a very fluffy snowpack prior to these two storms, is now a very dense snowpack that has some heft to it. I like how things have evolved over the past week because we are suddenly in very good shape heading into the spring-time snows of later February, March, and April.

I measured 29-30" on the ground around 950ft at Topnotch Resort and Spa (on the Mountain Road here in Stowe) today where I work on the weekends. Have a couple pictures I'll post later.

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As I was telling Allenson, a crazy storm last night. I figured more than 4 fell (due to the fact that about 3 fell before the changeover, then definitely more than an inch of a combined sleet/snow fell the rest of the storm), but the Hanover COOP reported 6. Seemed a little high to me. EDIT: Seems North Pomfret, VT (which is only 10 miles from here (and basically same elevation) got 5.3 inches... That seems closer to the truth.

As for Monday Night/Tuesday, looks like all snow... I think 3-5, but wouldn't argue with someone who put out a 2-4 forecast.

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As I was telling Allenson, a crazy storm last night. I figured more than 4 fell (due to the fact that about 3 fell before the changeover, then definitely more than an inch of a combined sleet/snow fell the rest of the storm), but the Hanover COOP reported 6. Seemed a little high to me.

As for Monday Night/Tuesday, looks like all snow... I think 3-5, but wouldn't argue with someone who put out a 2-4 forecast.

How about 2-5"? :lol:

That's what I'm going with for tomorrow evening through Tuesday evening. I figure up here we'll get around 1/4" of liquid but unsure of what ratios might be... figuring 12:1 is a good place to start, increasing to 16:1 towards the end.

Bust potential is there, but mostly on the high side I think as some models indicate a decent period of upslope snow as winds crank NW once the storm gets its act together off-shore. With left over synoptic moisture in place, I could see the mountains pulling a few extra inches of upslope fluff out of this... certainly not an uncommon scenario in these parts.

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As somone said earlier in the thread, it was quite an interesting mixture of precip types on in the new accumulation. I had a class at 8:30 in Winooski to be at so I was out before my plow guy to clean off the car and it was almost like an archaeological dig through the layers. A couple of inches of heavy wet snow on top of a layer of sleet and ice of some fluffier stuff that fell at first. There were even some of those styrofoam like balls somewhere in the stack. I think we had about 6 inches total. This stuff is so heavy compared to the previously existing snowpack that I was half wondering if compressed it so much that there was a net loss in snow depth. :lol:

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As somone said earlier in the thread, it was quite an interesting mixture of precip types on in the new accumulation. I had a class at 8:30 in Winooski to be at so I was out before my plow guy to clean off the car and it was almost like an archaeological dig through the layers. A couple of inches of heavy wet snow on top of a layer of sleet and ice of some fluffier stuff that fell at first. There were even some of those styrofoam like balls somewhere in the stack. I think we had about 6 inches total. This stuff is so heavy compared to the previously existing snowpack that I was half wondering if compressed it so much that there was a net loss in snow depth. :lol:

that's what I thought, too. We had a quick 4.5 inches from 2:30 yesterday to 5:30, and then I brushed off the board. This morning, there was 3 inches on the board, with 0.6 inches of that being ice. But when I walked the driveway (on the way to finding the plow truck man stuck in a drift :yikes:), I certainly didn't walk through 7.5 inches of snow, and the whole yard looked a bit more packed down than it was before the storm.

The line of thunderstorms that blew through the lower Champlain Valley was something else. A sudden gust of wind, pinging on the windows, and then multiple bursts of lightning. Very cool evening.

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We we ended up with 7" from the storm. There was a good crust layer about 2 1/2 inches down so I don't know how much compression happened to what fell before the mix. We had 3 inches in the first 2 hours. I quit early and went to bed only to get woken up by the thunder sleet at 10. Amazing light show. Eventually I fell back to sleep only to get awoken at 2 by a wierd hammering-type noise. I went downstairs just in time to get startled as all the snow on one side of the house came sliding off. Freaked me out. I had gone out and found the last store in NE with roof rakes and had taken most of the snow off the barn right before the snow hit. I got to one side of the house but still have the back half to do. I am running out of places to put it all. I measured about 26" in the back field this morning.

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I measured 29-30" on the ground around 950ft at Topnotch Resort and Spa (on the Mountain Road here in Stowe) today where I work on the weekends. Have a couple pictures I'll post later.

Scott, in case you hadn't seen it, I noticed that the NWS posted the current snowpack numbers below the totals for the recent storm.

NOUS41 KBTV 062321
PNSBTV
NYZ026>031-034-035-087-VTZ001>012-016>019-071108-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
620 PM EST SUN FEB 06 2011

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST
24 HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION.
APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO COOPERATIVE AND COCORAHS OBSERVERS...
SKYWARN SPOTTERS...MEDIA AND GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THESE REPORTS.
THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT 
WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON

THIS WILL BE THE LAST REPORT FOR THIS STORM.

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                    SNOWFALL           OF 
                    /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
  4 ESE PERU             8.8   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  MORIAH                 9.0   718 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  2 N LAKE PLACID        8.5   810 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  1 SW MALONE           10.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WHIPPLEVILLE           8.8   759 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
  SOUTH EDWARDS         12.5   720 AM  2/06  PUBLIC                  
  POTSDAM               10.0   850 AM  2/06  SPOTTER 
  3 NW GOUVERNEUR        9.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER                
  2 NE OGDENSBURG        8.0   859 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  1 NW EDWARDS           8.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
  2 NW LINCOLN          11.0   730 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  SOUTH LINCOLN          7.8   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 ENE BRIDPORT         6.5   652 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  BRIDPORT               6.0   641 AM  2/06  GENERAL PUBLIC          

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
  3 NNW SHEFFIELD        9.5  1030 AM  2/06  COCORAHS 
  2 NE SUTTON            9.4   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  4 N WALDEN             9.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WALDEN                 9.0   849 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  2 SW SUTTON            8.7   710 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  LYNDON CENTER          8.3  1016 AM  2/06  LYNDON STATE COLLEGE    
  ST. JOHNSBURY          7.9  1101 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 E DANVILLE           7.8   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                   
  SE SHEFFIELD           7.0   800 AM  2/06  COCORAHS              

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
  1 NW BURLINGTON       11.5   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 NW WESTFORD         10.0  1002 AM  2/06  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 NE SOUTH BURLINGTO   9.5   637 AM  2/06  NWS OFFICE   
  HANKSVILLE             9.3   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER           
  JERICHO                9.0   647 AM  2/06  PUBLIC                  
  2 NNW WILLISTON        8.5   851 AM  2/06  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  HINESBURG              8.0   918 AM  2/06  SPOTTER    
  3 SSE RICHMOND         7.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS             
  1 E NASHVILLE          6.2   645 AM  2/06  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 NNE HUNTINGTON       6.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS           

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  1 N ISLAND POND       10.0   150 PM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  ENOSBURG FALLS        12.0   700 AM  2/06  COOP OBSERVER 
  SWANTON               10.4   634 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  5 S ST. ALBANS         9.5   633 AM  2/06  PUBLIC                  

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
  MOUNT MANSFIELD       11.0   400 PM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER
  MORRISVILLE            8.5   715 AM  2/06  PUBLIC                  
  5 N JEFFERSONVILLE     8.0   825 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 S EDEN               8.0   947 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NE HYDE PARK         6.5   830 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  STOWE                  6.0  1101 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                

...ORANGE COUNTY...
  2 WSW BROOKFIELD       8.0   730 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SW SOUTH VERSHIRE    6.0   743 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  CORINTH                6.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW CHELSEA           6.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER     

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
  1 SW IRASBURG         14.0   800 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 WNW WESTFIELD       14.0   745 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  JAY PEAK              10.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  NEWPORT                9.5   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW DERBY CENTER      9.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  ORLEANS                7.3   856 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  2 WNW STANNARD         7.0   902 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  3 ENE BARTON           6.9   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS   

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
  1 N RUTLAND            5.1   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 N WEST RUTLAND       4.2   900 AM  2/06  COCORAHS         

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
  4 ENE CABOT           10.0   900 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  3 NE WATERBURY         9.0   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  5 NNE WATERBURY        8.1   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  3 NW WATERBURY         7.6   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  MARSHFIELD             7.5   954 AM  2/06  SPOTTER                 
  2 SW EAST CALAIS       7.2   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 SSW SOUTH WOODBURY   7.0   730 AM  2/06  SPOTTER   
  2 N NORTHFIELD         7.0   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS               
  PLAINFIELD             6.8   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SE WAITSFIELD        6.1   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 W WAITSFIELD         6.1   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 W WORCESTER          6.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 N NORTHFIELD         5.5   835 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER               

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
  1 S ROCHESTER          6.0   724 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 N POMFRET            5.3   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  WOODSTOCK              3.0   800 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 S LUDLOW             2.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS      


***********************SNOW ON GROUND***********************

LOCATION                 SNOW     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                    ON GROUND           OF 
                    /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  2 N LAKE PLACID       32.0   810 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  1 SW MALONE           24.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
  1 NW EDWARDS          19.5   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  3 NW GOUVERNEUR       18.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
  SOUTH LINCOLN         23.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW LINCOLN          23.0   730 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 SE LINCOLN          23.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
  4 N WALDEN            32.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NNW SHEFFIELD       30.5  1030 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 SW SUTTON           28.0   710 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 E DANVILLE          25.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  ST JOHNSBURY          22.0   400 PM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NE SUTTON           21.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
  1 E NASHVILLE         24.0   645 AM  2/06  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  HANKSVILLE            24.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 SSE RICHMOND        23.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 NNE HUNTINGTON      22.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  1 N ISLAND POND       37.0   150 PM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  ENOSBURG FALLS        33.0   700 AM  2/06  COOP OBSERVER           

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
  MOUNT MANSFIELD       65.0   400 PM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  5 N JEFFERSONVILLE    33.0   825 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 S EDEN              30.0   947 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NE HYDE PARK        22.0   830 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...ORANGE COUNTY...
  CORINTH               30.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW CHELSEA          30.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
  JAY PEAK              52.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW DERBY CENTER     29.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 WNW WESTFIELD       29.0   745 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  NEWPORT               28.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 ENE BARTON          26.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 SW IRASBURG         24.0   800 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
  1 N RUTLAND           26.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 N WEST RUTLAND      19.5   900 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
  4 ENE CABOT           29.0   900 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  3 NW WATERBURY        29.0   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  3 NE WATERBURY        29.0   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  5 NNE WATERBURY       26.5   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 N NORTHFIELD        26.0   835 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SE WAITSFIELD       25.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 N NORTHFIELD        25.0   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  2 W WAITSFIELD        25.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SW EAST CALAIS      24.5   600 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  PLAINFIELD            24.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SW MONTPELIER       24.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 W WORCESTER         22.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
  4 N BETHEL            32.0   700 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 N POMFRET           30.0   700 AM  2/06  COCORAHS                
  1 S ROCHESTER         24.0   724 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WOODSTOCK             21.0   800 AM  2/06  CO-OP OBSERVER                  


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As I was telling Allenson, a crazy storm last night. I figured more than 4 fell (due to the fact that about 3 fell before the changeover, then definitely more than an inch of a combined sleet/snow fell the rest of the storm), but the Hanover COOP reported 6. Seemed a little high to me. EDIT: Seems North Pomfret, VT (which is only 10 miles from here (and basically same elevation) got 5.3 inches... That seems closer to the truth.

I think we need to hold an intervention with the Hanover coop person. Only 0.22" of liquid reported with the pasting of Saturday night to go along with the 6" of snow when everyone else was at nealy an inch of liquid and 6" or less of snow. ;)

And yes, Pomfret is close by....

Taking today off from work--much needed!

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I think we need to hold an intervention with the Hanover coop person. Only 0.22" of liquid reported with the pasting of Saturday night to go along with the 6" of snow when everyone else was at nealy an inch of liquid and 6" or less of snow. ;)

And yes, Pomfret is close by....

Taking today off from work--much needed!

Yes but if you spend the whole day moving snow you will be even more tired than if you went to work. My back is happy to have me back at my desk this morning. Boy does it feel warm here in St. J. today. It is 29.6 here in town already.

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Event totals: 0.2” Snow/Trace L.E.

Monday 2/7/2011 6:00 A.M. update: I noticed some flurries around last night, and I found a couple tenths of an inch of snow on the board this morning with continued flakes in the air. Similar steady flakes were seen here in Burlington around 7:00 A.M., but that activity has now stopped. It sounds like this precipitation is associated with mid the mid and upper level flow that we’re currently seeing.

We’re under a winter weather advisory for the next event, and I’ve pasted in a couple of the BTV NWS graphics below:

07FEB11A.jpg

07FEB11B.jpg

Some details from the 6:00 A.M. observations are below:

New Snow: 0.2 inches

New Liquid: Trace

Temperature: 28.0 F

Sky: Flurries

Snow at the stake: 28.0 inches

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Yes but if you spend the whole day moving snow you will be even more tired than if you went to work. My back is happy to have me back at my desk this morning. Boy does it feel warm here in St. J. today. It is 29.6 here in town already.

So true, man. Some days it's a relief to go to work and look at maps all day (I work in the map room in the library at Dartmouth).

I've been shoveling and plowing every day for about a week now. :arrowhead:

You at the Fairbanks?

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So true, man. Some days it's a relief to go to work and look at maps all day (I work in the map room in the library at Dartmouth).

I've been shoveling and plowing every day for about a week now. :arrowhead:

You at the Fairbanks?

No I am about a block away from it though so it is a nice guide to have for when I am deciding what to throw on for my lunch time run.

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No I am about a block away from it though so it is a nice guide to have for when I am deciding what to throw on for my lunch time run.

Roger that. I've always been a big fan of the Eye on the Sky guys--particularly Maleski. Mark Breen is coming to Corinth in March to give a presentation for our Conservation Commission on weather lore. I'll be going to that one!

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The sun is poking her nose out here a bit. Up to 33F with some drips off the roof. I'm hoping the barn will slide as I've yet to rake/shovel that--about 2' on it. I've never raked the barn as it always slides on its own but not yet so far during this stretch. I'll get at least the edges later today and give it a head-start.

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for a nice, drying cold front. This cruddy sou'westerly air is getting stale. Looks like that'll happen after whatever comes through tonight/tomorrow....

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Didn't get to attack the driveway until 2 PM yest, and no 40F softening - high was 31. The snowblower did okay at very low speed but anything more and it wanted to climb atop the crust. 6" shouldn't take 80 minutes to finish, but this was not the ordinary 6". Excellent throw distance, however.

The 23" at the stake (by aft., was 25" at Sunday dawn) is quite representative of overall snow depth, but where I dug to get a snow sample was only 21" - hit a hump in the lawn, I guess. That 21" had 4.28" LE; projecting that to 23" would be 4.69". We've had just over 5" total LE starting with the storm of 12/22-23, and only the mini-thaw of 1/1-2 plus any sublimation to remove water, thus either of the above LE amounts would be reasonable.

If the circa 1/4" qpf works out with the nice midlevel temps, 3-4" seems reasonable for MBY. After that, another run at -20 for Thurs/Fri mornings, perhaps, and only mini-thaws out thru day 16 on 12z gfs. Beginning to look like a year when snowpack lasts well into April (as it did in 01, 05, 07-09).

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I think we need to hold an intervention with the Hanover coop person. Only 0.22" of liquid reported with the pasting of Saturday night to go along with the 6" of snow when everyone else was at nealy an inch of liquid and 6" or less of snow. ;)

And yes, Pomfret is close by....

Taking today off from work--much needed!

Glad you are enjoying the day off.

I think we should hold a dual intervention... One for the KLEB thermometer, and one for the Hanover COOP. Dude needs to lay off the smack.

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Didn't get to attack the driveway until 2 PM yest, and no 40F softening - high was 31.  The snowblower did okay at very low speed but anything more and it wanted to climb atop the crust.  6" shouldn't take 80 minutes to finish, but this was not the ordinary

Familiar story. Took 22 minutes to get out of the 35 foot driveway this morning. The plowback turned into a scale model of the Hindu Kush overnight, and the rest of the driveway was a rink.

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Nice break today-- +32 for a while, lots of sliding from the roof and we even got a little help from the town pusing banks back with the big grader.

I think we should hold a dual intervention... One for the KLEB thermometer, and one for the Hanover COOP. Dude needs to lay off the smack.

We can go shake them down and show'em what's what.

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