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1/21/11 Storm Discussion III


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Yup, this ones moving quick. Back edge is already near Albany.

Don't think anywhere in W. Ma. gets more than 4-5" which seems to have been the consensus right along.

I just measure 2.6" and I'll be happy if I total out at 4"

I'll have moderate to heavy snow another 4-5 hours. Expecting 6+

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What was your final measurement in the Jan 18 storm? 7"?

I notice I will often come in with more than you which makes sense, but in that storm it was probably equal...i got home after it ended, but noticed about 4" of new snow crusted by ice, but I knew the snow was more than that before the compaction from ZR/IP and even some light rain at 33F the next day took place.

6.7" before the compaction.

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i agree with you, I doubt anyone sees much over 6"

funny thing is, if there is a widespread 6", technically he verifies. that's why he went with a 6-12. big difference between 6 and 12 inches :guitar:

Yeah it's a verification but not a great call.

If I call for 5-10 and my area gets 5 I don't feel like it's a victory. If I had said 3-6 or 4-8 and my area gets 5 sure.

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North Foster averages around 59" per year...they are a sneaky good spot...most people do not know how good it is. They have 600 ft of elevation there.

Thanks, Will. No one thinks of RI as a snowy part of New England, but I always seem to see heavy returns, probably orographically enhanced, over that NW corner.

I always wonder how much I'd average if I had a few hundred more feet...I probably do 39"/year now at 350' but there's one higher hill slightly to the north that is probably like 500'. It seems the small elevation differences really make a big deal around here.

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6.7" before the compaction.

That matches up with my mother's amateur measurement...she said "over 6", almost 7"..." that is about perfect to a T for matching up. She was on winter hill. I'm looking forward to being back there to get an extra hundred feet.....they are migrating to florida for February. So I'm up there for every event.

The ORH measurement of 3.6" is an absolute joke. Even Grafton south of here measured 6-7".

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If N Foster at 600' averages 59", you could probably tack on another few inches for the 800'+ elevations in RI. Living down in that area and always seeing the big totals in NW RI versus over the border east into MA is a frustrating thing.

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North Foster averages around 59" per year...they are a sneaky good spot...most people do not know how good it is. They have 600 ft of elevation there.

The top of my hill which runs about a mile from me at the East Killingly Fire House at the RI border is about 610 I am at 512, sometimes the snow differences are absolutely insane. There is a snow belt that runs from the RT 6 border with RI CT, NNE up, from RI through Mass. I did some ground truthing for NWS as an intern with USDA and the RI State Climatologist for Nexrad, that area is underrepresented on radar too. The coop guy from Foster is a legend, can not remember his name but as meticulous as anyone I have met. I used to take my kids sledding up there from the snowhole in Westerly about 25 mins south.

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If N Foster at 600' averages 59", you could probably tack on another few inches for the 800'+ elevations in RI. Living down in that area and always seeing the big totals in NW RI versus over the border east into MA is a frustrating thing.

There's only one spot over 800 ft in RI I think...its Jerimoth Hill at 812 feet. Nobody lives on the top of it I dont think.

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That matches up with my mother's amateur measurement...she said "over 6", almost 7"..." that is about perfect to a T for matching up. She was on winter hill. I'm looking forward to being back there to get an extra hundred feet.....they are migrating to florida for February. So I'm up there for every event.

The ORH measurement of 3.6" is an absolute joke. Even Grafton south of here measured 6-7".

ORH measured 3.6? lol wow, I guess they are the BDL opposite. Shrewsbury on the PNS came in with 7.4", so if anything 6.7" is low.

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There's only one spot over 800 ft in RI I think...its Jerimoth Hill at 812 feet. Nobody lives on the top of it I dont think.

Yeah but it's on the highway, route 6 or 44 I forget but used to weenie out there during a couple elevation storms in the 90s.

Also Durfee hill in Gloucester is over 800', there's a few spots...I bet they average low 60s, while just 10 miles east averages low 40s

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ORH measured 3.6? lol wow, I guess they are the BDL opposite. Shrewsbury on the PNS came in with 7.4", so if anything 6.7" is low.

Yeah, we were all "wowed" by the ORH measurement...they were the lowest report in ORH county except northbridge near the CT border...but ORH is so far north of them in that setup, its obscene to report that total.

There is nothing we can do about it though...the ORH observer reports it and they will accept it unless its obviously wrong...which you would think applies in this case...but it doesnt. It has to be so out of whack for them not to accept it.

I'm sure Arnold is rolling his eyes on that type of thing. But he knows exactly what I'm talking about. That total was pathetically low. It was likely 6-8" and not 3.6"....thats the sad part...there was a 2 or 3 inch range where a total would have been believable but it actually ended up outside that total.

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METAR KPVD 211151Z COR 02010KT 1/2SM R05/3500V4000FT SN FZFG SCT003 BKN010 OVC017 M04/M05 A2948 RMK AO2 PRESFR SLP982 PLE32 SNINCR 1/4 P0008 60019 70019 4/004 T10391050 11028 21044 58072

PVD actually doing pretty well, 4" new. IP was a fluke, it's been corrected.

Yeah, looks like any changover line is skirting the south coast right now.

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Yeah, we were all "wowed" by the ORH measurement...they were the lowest report in ORH county except northbridge near the CT border...but ORH is so far north of them in that setup, its obscene to report that total.

There is nothing we can do about it though...the ORH observer reports it and they will accept it unless its obviously wrong...which you would think applies in this case...but it doesnt. It has to be so out of whack for them not to accept it.

I'm sure Arnold is rolling his eyes on that type of thing. But he knows exactly what I'm talking about. That total was pathetically low. It was likely 6-8" and not 3.6"....thats the sad part...there was a 2 or 3 inch range where a total would have been believable but it actually ended up outside that total.

don't even get me going...

anyway...radar sez you should be ripping very soon.

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