famartin Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Interesting to see the disparity in lows on ideal rad cooling nights. Classic case where suburbs are 10-15F cooler than NYC. Also, the UHI is clearly much stronger at NYC than PHL (no surprise, it's got 8 million people vs 2 million in PHL). ACY, SMQ, and MJX all tend to be the coldest on rad cooling nights. Its not really NYC versus PHL... its more like JFK or EWR versus PHL, given the difference in locations between the airport and Center City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 That LGA low is absurd. What did they drop 6 degrees from the high yesterday? I wouldn't be surprised if their first 32F comes w/ their first accumulating snowfall! Do you know if that's happened before? Yes. In fact there's been years when it was after the first measurable snowfall: 1950: First measurable November 23, first 32F November 26 1953: First measurable and first 32F November 6 1955: First measurable and first 32F November 19 1961: First measurable November 20, first 32F November 28 1962: First measurable October 26, first 32F November 7 1980: First measurable and first 32F November 17 1985: First measurable November 16, first 32F December 2 1997: First measurable November 14, first 32F November 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Updated lows this morning: TTN 25 DYL 23 PNE 25 NXX 29 WRI 23 VAY 22 SMQ 20 LOM 23 NEL 19 UKT 19 PHL 30 MJX 18 BLM 27 PTW 24 MMU 21 ABE 20 EWR 30 CDW 23 12N 22 TEB 28 NYC 35 ACY 22 ILG 26 LGA 39 MQS 28 JFK 31 RDG 24 MIV 21 MPO 20 FWN 18 LNS 23 HPN 28 FRG 28 DOV 26 AVP 23 WWD 27 MGJ 18 SWF 23 MUI 21 ISP 26 GED 26 ESN 28 W29 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 22.6 for the coldest low of the season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanormalWx Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Flood Watch out for NW parts of the forecast area. 2-3" of rain with an outside shot of a thunderstorm and some strong winds possible late Tuesday Night into Wednesday Morning. Looking at the Euro, this might be the best chance of precip for the LV and So. Poconos for a while (I'm kidding, I hope ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 tombo...what does the euro have for KLNS? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 22 here this morning.........reached 48 this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 23.4 was my low this morning. It is hard to get excited about all this rain coming, when you know there might be snow in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 23.4 was my low this morning. It is hard to get excited about all this rain coming, when you know there might be snow in the near future. I don't know. This frontal passage might be pretty intense, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCT777 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 21 degrees for a low this morning at 7 AM in Spring Mount, PA. Coldest morning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 By far, the coldest temp so far this season at 25F, very heavy frost on the grass and cars. I agree that the frontal passage will be very interesting, but almost always disappoint in the end. Oh well, I can always hope for something, at least there's some snow threats to track in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wederwarrior Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I don't know. This frontal passage might be pretty intense, we'll see. I agree it should be prettty nice "pattern flippin front scary lightning" type.....hopefully don't get another until March/April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Lightning Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 From 18 to 50 today....not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 jeez, last nights model runs sucked the life out of this forum lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 light rain all morning...temps went from 35F to 50F overnight...pretty cool. may see some storms later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 the indiv ens members of the ggem, are drooling for the dec 5 storm http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ENSCMCPRS_0z/ensloopmref.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 the indiv ens members of the ggem, are drooling for the dec 5 storm http://www.meteo.psu...nsloopmref.html Well then there's the red flag that the cutter is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well then there's the red flag that the cutter is crap. no thats for the dec 5th storm that i was talking bout, i didnt even look at the 2nd storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 no thats for the dec 5th storm that i was talking bout, i didnt even look at the 2nd storm. Ahh oaky my bad. Anyways, still a good sign to see a robust solution on the ensembles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Since my name is in the title of the observations, here's my report. I can safely say its pouring rain all the way from Pottsville to Moosic on I-81-- Crews gearing up for flooding rain--story at 5, 6, and 7 (its not mine, but we did shoot crews clearing out drains in Pottsville) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Up to 0.16" so far...thinking we finish with 2-3" storm total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Up to 0.16" so far...thinking we finish with 2-3" storm total. You back in Hazleton? Your total so far is nearly identical to mine. Here in Tamaqua we have 0.18". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 You back in Hazleton? Your total so far is nearly identical to mine. Here in Tamaqua we have 0.18". Yep, here until the weekend. 2 1/2 more weeks left at PSU Hazleton before the end of the semester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Picked up 0.22" so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 the 18z indiv ens members are very interesting early next week, several show storm number 2 turning the corner, other show the low over maine retrograding down to pa. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ENSPRSNE_18z/ensprsloopmref.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Its not really NYC versus PHL... its more like JFK or EWR versus PHL, given the difference in locations between the airport and Center City. This. If PHL were at, say, the Franklin Institute or at Penn you'd have a warmer morning low coming out of Philly almost every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 the 18z indiv ens members are very interesting early next week, several show storm number 2 turning the corner, other show the low over maine retrograding down to pa. I dont like that retrograding low idea. Isnt that one of the main reasons storm number 2 gets squashed, and not turn the corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I dont like that retrograding low idea. Isnt that one of the main reasons storm number 2 gets squashed, and not turn the corner? i dont think its the storm really, its the h5 low. For instance look at the 18z gfs, that storm was weaker and further away, but the h 5 low was a lot stronger thus squashing everything even moreso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 i dont think its the storm really, its the h5 low. For instance look at the 18z gfs, that storm was weaker and further away, but the h 5 low was a lot stronger thus squashing everything even moreso Ok, that makes sense. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Ok, that makes sense. Thanks heres a good visual, this is comparing the 12z gfs top image, to the 18z gfs bottom. Look at how much deep the h5 low is and how much the heights on the east coast are squashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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