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Lehigh Valley to Reading to Southern Poconos to NW NJ ...obs and banter!


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Radar shows the backend closing fast from the NW while precip from the coastal continues to build from the SE. Fun little battleground shaping up.

The back edge will win of course! But everyone should get a quick thump, maybe a bonus inch before it sweeps through. What it may do is really enhance the areas over carbon and monroe though as the two come together. I really like that band now crossing Blue Mountain.

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Just looked at PennDot cams in the Lehigh Valley and it's damn near a whiteout in Folgelsville at I-78 and PA 100 as well as the 78/22 split. Wow!

White Haven is about to become a White Out shortly too as the bands converge right at the 80/NE Extension intersection. This is great for the pocono ski resorts..I got to ski on fake snow at Montage 2 weeks ago-wish I was off tomorrow...

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The back edge will win of course! But everyone should get a quick thump, maybe a bonus inch before it sweeps through. What it may do is really enhance the areas over carbon and monroe though as the two come together. I really like that band now crossing Blue Mountain.

Agree. The back edge collasping in with the push in from the SE of the atlantic will likely tighten and intesify this band over next few hours then it will slowly but steadily slip off to the east. Next 3-5 hours NW of I95 to ~RDG-ABE-12N going to be fun. That will all translate east too.

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Guys.. if you're in Reading.. do not go out. I love driving in snow with the Jetta.. but this was not fun. I am not one to exagerrate "heavy snow" but I'm not lying to you when I'm saying visibility may be 500 ft or snow tops. Rt 12 around berkshire mall is a mess.. cars were sideways not sure if they plowed at all. These flakes are huge and it makes it that much worse.

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I can't wait to see the NESIS rating on this,, prolly a solid 3 at least, I know it is ridiculous to even talk about it but sheesh, this is gonna HAVE A BIG swath of 10+ for millions of people I think.

Just to think, if there wasn't a sharp cutoff it would be an easy 4, maybe pushing 5. A true classic.

Oh what could have been! To hell with sharp cutoffs!

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Agree. The back edge collasping in with the push in from the SE of the atlantic will likely tighten and intesify this band over next few hours then it will slowly but steadily slip off to the east. Next 3-5 hours NW of I95 to ~RDG-ABE-12N going to be fun. That will all translate east too.

Good stuff falls apart just south of us still. Looks like a good band over 78 still heading north. Maybe this one.

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Good stuff falls apart just south of us still. Looks like a good band over 78 still heading north. Maybe this one.

But still much better then some of the earlier ideas the data was showing like 1-3" or less. lol Probably will not record the highest amounts here but we will do just fine. Another 4-8" to add to our totals for the season which are above normal but still pale in comparison to those further east.

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Already at 4" here and snowing at good 1"/hr clip now and looks to continue for next few hours at least. I'm thinking 6-10" for SE part of Sussex County, agree its not jackpot but way better than I was expecting this AM. Still kind of surprised NWS continues the WWA for the county and point and click for me has 3-5" and I am quite certain we will surpass that. Just glad we had a slight NW trend at the end this time!

But still much better then some of the earlier ideas the data was showing like 1-3" or less. lol Probably will not record the highest amounts here but we will do just fine. Another 4-8" to add to our totals for the season which are above normal but still pale in comparison to those further east.

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Heavy snow continues in Allentown. I want thunder though. :P

I was out running some errands from about 530 to 815 and when I first went out, it was pouring freezing rain... Then soon after it changed to snow and I saw damn near blizzard conditions on my journey from Allentown to Bethlehem and back.

Just like I was thinking earlier by looking at the radar, this storm is going NW more than what was advertised.

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snapback.pngPSUHazletonWx, on 22 January 2011 - 02:50 PM, said:

If we don't get a significant hit back here I'm giving up on significant snow until 2011-12. We just can't seem to win at all this winter.

Grothar said:

I would not worry, this storm looks like it our turn. I have seen these type of storms for over 25 years. Wait until the last model run of the GFS/Euro on Monday. You know- just think how 15 years ago, there was virtually no internet and all we relied on were faxes of weather models, teletypes of computer models runs. There was no computer at home to read these models and we all relied on was the weather channel maps. Now, many posters get upset about one run of the Euro or GFS not going their way. I relied on experience before all of this internet bulls&**. about which model run wins out. I am no pro met but my experience should suffice. With over 35 years experience, I can reasonably tell you that no one should be looking at these computer models and relying on them as gospel. They are guidance tools for pro-mets and many posters should not look at them. The inexperienced think they know but take away their computer tool and they would be a lost puppy. My experience says the setups are right. Lets wait and see

Stated by Grothar yesterday:

We learned the following:

1. We do not belong in the same thread as NYC and PHL

2. That CCB will never be over the LV

3. That models that indicate that we are getting 12" are full of sh*&.

4. That even JB had hopes for us but were crushed in tonights runs, which pitiful in my eyes

5. That one failed balloon launch screwed up the NAM run which led to convective feedback

6. That the words convective feedback loop problems or initialization errors are common vocabulary for model runs for those in the NYC or PHL threads when it appears that LV or Schuylkill Cnty is to receive a foot of snow.

7. That the LV thread can have 24 or more pages yet they still have to break up PHL and NYC for infighting

8. Finally, that tombo does a great job helping the LV posterssmile.gifsmile.gif

snapback.pngVoyager, on 25 January 2011 - 11:03 PM, said:

Indeed. That's why I was questioning his call.

Grothar said:

Well thats what he said according to the other threads. Now it looks like we will be under a WAA in the next few hours according to the latest models. I just want to point out that I have never seen a Miller A storm dump less than 6 inches on us. I still say we get 6"to 8"

These above posts in the last six days are to show you to never give up hope. Past Storm History usually will match or beat a computer model when it comes to snow totals - why because the models rely solely on present mathematical data and does not incorporate historical data.

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