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Friday, January 21st Storm Discussion II


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AWT seasonal trend ftw

Its amazing how the northern stream keeps trending stronger each storm at the last minute. I was starting to doubt that trend yesterday even though I was the one who had pointed it out for the previous storms this winter....but it seems to be going that direction again. Its all about the northern stream having more defined vortmax and able to dig a little more.

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Its amazing how the northern stream keeps trending stronger each storm at the last minute. I was starting to doubt that trend yesterday even though I was the one who had pointed it out for the previous storms this winter....but it seems to be going that direction again. Its all about the northern stream having more defined vortmax and able to dig a little more.

Kudos to you, sir.

I believe it was you who specifically pointed out the potential for this one if it managed to squeak out just S of Long Island...

The NAM seems to very much agree with you on its latest run.

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Do you really think someone will report 12" (well, BDL of course)?

I guess Pete and Sam might be getting huge ratios but will they be too faw NW for enough qpf?

My (very basic) thoughts tell me widespread 4-8", maybe a couple 10" if they get really fluffed.

Yes and i think the max amts will be 13-14 inches.... I was very confident this was going to happen ..

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This isn't bashing, but the lack of continuity run to run is staggering with such a short lead time.

That's why we look less at the models and more at what is actually going on at this time range. Posting five times a day on how bad the model is, trashing and bashing, then even denying you're doing it is pretty weird. :D

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WSW for all of SNE with the 4 pm package..possibly sooner

Unless the GFS shows similar QPF, I imagine it'll be 4 PM and no sooner.

If the GFS and ensemble members sing a chorus of what we just saw on the NAM at 12z, that's the only way I could see it being earlier.

What did the overnight Euro look like?

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Its amazing how the northern stream keeps trending stronger each storm at the last minute. I was starting to doubt that trend yesterday even though I was the one who had pointed it out for the previous storms this winter....but it seems to be going that direction again. Its all about the northern stream having more defined vortmax and able to dig a little more.

It took until we were 24-30 hours out instead of about 48.

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Unless the GFS shows similar QPF, I imagine it'll be 4 PM and no sooner.

If the GFS and ensemble members sing a chorus of what we just saw on the NAM at 12z, that's the only way I could see it being earlier.

What did the overnight Euro look like?

It was a decent hit for most...

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It should probably be pointed out that a little more of the southern stream energy gets absorbed into this compared to come of the rafter solutions. Sort of interconnected with the N stream digging a bit more. Its a nice positive feedback for this system.

I think its very encouraging that its been over performing out in the plains and midwest.

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Nice

You have been very consistent with this for 2+ days.

Could you explain what you saw 2 days ago when the models were puking on their shoes?

General NW trend of everything these last few storms?

1) Look past the models

2) Seasonal trends of northern stream systems amplifying to max potential

3) No to little blocking meant should come NW

4) -8 c isotherm is always an area where big snows fall even when not modelled

5) Nina yrs storms always come NW the last 36 hrs

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