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January 19-21 MW/GL/OV Storm part 2


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lol nice video.

Chris Bradley says 3-6, but no map until 11pm with specifics :arrowhead: At least he explained the whole watch situation and criteria again. Gosh that is annoying.

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Chris Bradley years ago used to do the weather up here in Detroit, I got to meet him once when I was like 10, he came to our elementary school. He is a good forecaster.

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Well time to punt for here, relatively speaking. Earlier I was riding high and thinking 2-5" might be doable, but that has since evaporated on the majority of guidance.

Probability based snowfall for LAF:

1": 75%

2": 20%

3": 5%

My intrigue level remains for the folks out in MO, where the front running and then "system" snow overlaps. MCI, JLN, and STL are places I think that could/will do well. Any banding will most likely help and enhance totals in localized spots out that way. Thinking out loud with some numbers in those areas:

MCI: 4-6"

JLN: 3-5"

STL: 4-8"

As for the rest of the region, east of MO, it'll be primarily 2-4", 3-5" type snows I believe. PAH, EVV, BMG, IND, SDF, LEX, CVG, CMH, DAY, etc.

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Well time to punt for here, relatively speaking. Earlier I was riding high and thinking 2-5" might be doable, but that has since evaporated on the majority of guidance.

Probability based snowfall for LAF:

1": 75%

2": 20%

3": 5%

My intrigue level remains for the folks out in MO, where the front running and then "system" snow overlaps. MCI, JLN, and STL are places I think that could/will do well. Any banding will most likely help and enhance totals in localized spots out that way. Thinking out loud with some numbers in those areas:

MCI: 4-6"

JLN: 3-5"

STL: 4-8"

As for the rest of the region, east of MO, it'll be primarily 2-4", 3-5" type snows I believe. PAH, EVV, BMG, IND, SDF, LEX, CVG, CMH, DAY, etc.

Yeah, Springfield, MO is going with 2-5" but if the NAM instability and banding is realized then areas near 6 are possible. NAM is warmer than the GFS though.

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Well time to punt for here, relatively speaking. Earlier I was riding high and thinking 2-5" might be doable, but that has since evaporated on the majority of guidance.

Probability based snowfall for LAF:

1": 75%

2": 20%

3": 5%

My intrigue level remains for the folks out in MO, where the front running and then "system" snow overlaps. MCI, JLN, and STL are places I think that could/will do well. Any banding will most likely help and enhance totals in localized spots out that way. Thinking out loud with some numbers in those areas:

MCI: 4-6"

JLN: 3-5"

STL: 4-8"

As for the rest of the region, east of MO, it'll be primarily 2-4", 3-5" type snows I believe. PAH, EVV, BMG, IND, SDF, LEX, CVG, CMH, DAY, etc.

You could've at least waited until 00z. :arrowhead: I think 2-5" is still doable. Remember this from earlier

I woke up this morning expecting to make a pretty confident call but needless to say confidence has gone down. I think there's a danger of getting suckered in too much and assuming the trend will continue. Can't tell you how many times I've seen this type of model movement, then the bleeding stops and sometimes it tries to trend better at the last minute. One thing we should still have are above average ratios, which may not start out all that impressive but should trend better through the event. 15:1 event average is looking ok right now so then the question becomes how much precip do we get.

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I would wait until the 0z Thursday runs before giving up on something "big", but when the ECMWF run after run says no, you have to listen, just like I hope it starts showing something good for the 25thish time system in the next 3 days.

Eh, it's time to fold 'em for LAF. GFS doesn't even drop an inch here and the NAM is whacked. Plus like you said, the Euro remains steadfast. Still, it will be a nice storm for some...maybe not a slobber knocker for all involved...but nice enough.

The 25th system? I'll pass. I spent too much time on this storm that'll barely dust the ground here. :arrowhead:

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You could've at least waited until 00z. :arrowhead: I think 2-5" is still doable. Remember this from earlier

You're a much more level headed (and smarter) weather hobbyist than I am, so I give you a world of credit for still sticking with your guns. But I'm a hack, and turn tail and run at the first sign of trouble. That being said, I'll stick with my probabilities. ;)

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You're a much more level headed (and smarter) weather hobbyist than I am, so I give you a world of credit for still sticking with your guns. But I'm a hack, and turn tail and run at the first sign of trouble. That being said, I'll stick with my probabilities. ;)

Well, there are signs of trouble but I guess it depends on what the expectations are. Is the 00z NAM from last night gonna have a hard time verifying? I'd say so. We're in that transition zone where it could either be 1-2" or more like 3-5". At this point it's too close to call imo.

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Eh, it's time to fold 'em for LAF. GFS doesn't even drop an inch here and the NAM is whacked. Plus like you said, the Euro remains steadfast. Still, it will be a nice storm for some...maybe not a slobber knocker for all involved...but nice enough.

The 25th system? I'll pass. I spent too much time on this storm that'll barely dust the ground here. :arrowhead:

Don't go all Alek on us..;)

How many times have we had systems over perform for us? :whistle:

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Well, there are signs of trouble but I guess it depends on what the expectations are. Is the 00z NAM from last night gonna have a hard time verifying? I'd say so. We're in that transition zone where it could either be 1-2" or more like 3-5". At this point it's too close to call imo.

Well again, a level headed response. :) I think what hurts us, is part 1 if you will, has vanished on the models this far east. Now we're waiting on part 2 from the system that rides the boundary to deliver. All along that's been a 1-3" type scenario, which is my thinking right now. We'll see.

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lol....man you can't stand JG. Actually when i watched those youtube vids of him acting like an arse, i lost a bit of respect for him too. Those were just....bizarre

Don't get me wrong, Ill watch and see what he has to say, but the guy is odd. And drugs ate his brains away.. on a positive note the 18z gfs bumped up totals a bit on bufkit.. on a bad note I've got a killer headache that won't go away lol

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I think Jym is a good met...probably the best for central OH. That being said, I can easily see Jym handing the baton over to Chris Bradly whenever he retires or jumps the WCMH ship (or is he going to be the Jimmy Crum of weather???). Chris is a decent met who is a treat to watch when a storm is brewing.

I'm still sticking with my 3"-5" call for CMH metro.

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I think Jym is a good met...probably the best for central OH. That being said, I can easily see Jym handing the baton over to Chris Bradly whenever he retires or jumps the WCMH ship (or is he going to be the Jimmy Crum of weather???). Chris is a decent met who is a treat to watch when a storm is brewing.

I'm still sticking with my 3"-5" call for CMH metro.

No, sorry I disagree. Chris Bradley is by far the best met in central ohio. And no way Chris leaves wbns. When Chris was at wsyx, they had the best ratings. Now that he went to wbns they have the best. They have 2 very respectable mets in chris and mike.. Wbns has ganahl and mcpeek. Gelber was okay but he's rarely on anymore. But imo there is no comparison in ganahland bradley.

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