Edge Weather Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Euro is kind of boring. Looks like generally .15-.30 for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Is the compression of high ratio snow due mostly to gravity? Meaning if we are able to avoid melting and high winds, will it compress anyway? Yes. Just visit a Lake Effect area sometime and you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Haven't seen but heard Euro came in line with the rest of the models and increased us to .25"-.50" Can't believe not one person with access is giving the pbp. Euro is kind of boring. Looks like generally .15-.30 for most. So which one is it? Or is one person looking at total QPF while the other subtracted out today If no one does before then, I'll give some point totals if people want in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 No, it really did not. It has less than the other models, more to the north for NY state and CT, there it is in line with what the other models show further to the south for NJ, NYC, LI, and PA. It has Eastern PA, NJ, NYC, and LI as .1-.25 and further to the north for NY State, just north of NYC, CT and all of New England as .25+ Haven't seen but heard Euro came in line with the rest of the models and increased us to .25"-.50" Can't believe not one person with access is giving the pbp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Euro is kind of boring. Looks like generally .15-.30 for most. NYC appears to be .25"-.30". Not great but much better then its previous runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude11 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Haven't seen but heard Euro came in line with the rest of the models and increased us to .25"-.50" Can't believe not one person with access is giving the pbp. Us as in PHL & NYC?? You guys gotta be specific ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 The Euro is a general .1-.25 for PHL and surrounding areas. SW of NYC is in the same boat. NYC and points east and north are in the .25-.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reale WX Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Euro is kind of boring. Looks like generally .15-.30 for most. Yeah pretty boring, same as before. Not to mention its kinda warm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 NYC has two types of snow events, ones that start between 5pm-9pm and ones that start between 5am-9am...I swear they don't commence any other time....well, yeah they do, but most seem to cover those 8 hours. I may be wrong, but I've noticed that seasonal trends often time include start/stop times. This year it seems to always be a roughly dusk to dawn event, at least back here in PA. In the 93-94 winter it seemed like nearly every storm started a couple hours before daybreak, and ended around 3-4 in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 nyc is prob around .25 for the euro ttn-north is .10+ and phl and snj are less then .10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Euro PBP is a privelage and not a right... You should appreciate the people who pay for it and give out the info. i was gonna do it earlier, but im at work and had a firecall. 42, light snow into pa/wv,md.de... 1008 mb low down by delmarva/va beach.. very broad.. 48 1004 low between AC and NY.. really broad....really light qpf throughout PA, NJ, NYC.. 54 994-996mb low east of the cape... mod snows bos-cape.. light throughout sne... SV maps hard to tell where the vorticity is exactly at h5, but it seems to continue to keep the southern wave dissassociated for a longer time(ala 12z nam, previous euro runs) 40 south get VERY light precip .01" to .1" ttn to NYC .1"-.25" BGM to NYC to BOS .25"-.50".. Bos on the fringe of .5" plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I may be wrong, but I've noticed that seasonal trends often time include start/stop times. This year it seems to always be a roughly dusk to dawn event, at least back here in PA. In the 93-94 winter it seemed like nearly every storm started a couple hours before daybreak, and ended around 3-4 in the afternoon. I agree, and that's what I really liked about that winter. It seems like when we get stuck in patterns (whether it be a type of storm or timing) it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I thought Philly was .1-.25 and NYC was .25-.5 according to others here? NYC on east was 0.25+ so by that you can infer that the 0.25 line is right over NYC. I haven't seen it myself yet. I didn't hear anyone say what was down near Philly other than "general 0.15-0.30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I thought Philly was .1-.25 and NYC was .25-.5 according to others here? no...its less then .10 for phl....pretty much meh down there....its not really that much of improvments....for phl-south its pretty much a dusting-inch at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Philly is around .10 I thought Philly was .1-.25 and NYC was .25-.5 according to others here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yeah ray i have the paid maps...ttn is on the .10 line...south of there is less then that...the .25 runs right through nyc......north jersey is .10+ also This is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Is the compression of high ratio snow due mostly to gravity? Meaning if we are able to avoid melting and high winds, will it compress anyway? Its due to all of the above, gravity, sublimation, melting. This lower ratio coastal stuff has a lot more staying power than high ratio snow such as most lake effect. For example, yesterdays snow cover here (I do 8AM obs) was 15". We've had about 32" of snow this season (half of which fell in last Wednesday's storm). Syracuse has had 105" and their snow cover yesterday was 13". Both Buffalo and Rochester report 6" snowcover. Maybe part of that is the because we had a recent big snowfall here, but not all. Basically, an inch of qpf as snow is a precise amount of ice. 10" at 10:1 is three times as much frozen water as 10" at 30:1. It takes three times as much heat to melt. By the way I hope you don't mind that I cited your website in a small weather article this afternoon. No problem. I always enjoy 15 minutes of fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Anyone else notice the cyclogenesis on the 12z EC at hr 72 near West Palm Beach? Then it races that off to the northeast. Looks fairly amped up. It was near Charleston on the 00z and the energy was further north and east. The 12z holds it back longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Does it show any snow before the changeover on the day 7 system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Does it show any snow before the changeover on the day 7 system? There's a thread for that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Since this is the Friday storm thread, here is the JMA as well. In line with everything else, .25"-.50" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Anyone else notice the cyclogenesis on the 12z EC at hr 72 near West Palm Beach? Then it races that off to the northeast. Looks fairly amped up. It was near Charleston on the 00z and the energy was further north and east. The 12z holds it back longer. This was the shortwave the Euro was originally trying to blow up at 180 hours..when it had two big snowstorms in a row. Unfortunately with the pattern progression prior to it...it's no longer a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Bah, I hate those because you dont actually get to see the snow fall during the daytime. Im waiting for a crippling daytime snowstorm with thunder and lightning and high winds-- high ratios, low ratios, I dont care lol. I've never had a problem staying up at night (if its worth it) to watch it snow. Last year though, one or two of those blizzards occurred during the day, and it was quite a sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've never had a problem staying up at night (if its worth it) to watch it snow. Last year though, one or two of those blizzards occurred during the day, and it was quite a sight. It was The problem with late night snows is that it's hard to see anything outside of the immediate vicinity of your porch or deck light lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 12 Z NOGAPS Right over top of NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've never had a problem staying up at night (if its worth it) to watch it snow. Last year though, one or two of those blizzards occurred during the day, and it was quite a sight. I prefer night snow. I like being able to walk around on deserted streets as they become buried in the white stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 It was The problem with late night snows is that it's hard to see anything outside of the immediate vicinity of your porch or deck light lol. Take some jebwalks in a better-lit area. That's awesome at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <br />I prefer night snow. I like being able to walk around on deserted streets as they become buried in the white stuff <img src='http://img.amwx.us/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br /><br /><br />I am guessing your definition of buried there is 3 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> I am guessing your definition of buried there is 3 inches. Sadly yes. I prefer jebwalks in New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I prefer night snow. I like being able to walk around on deserted streets as they become buried in the white stuff Agreed! It's really pretty seeing the snow getting lit up by the street lights at night, and seeing the entire town deserted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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