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Friday, January 21st Storm Discussion


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LOL..was it you?

He's driven one of our best and most knowledgable posters away which is very sad

Twitchy bunch for sure. like to take shots but don't like the zingers back.

I think the comings and goings of a lot of posters seem to gel well with how well a train of thought is working out, it's human nature.

The nam spinup moves onshore of the baja around 24 hours and then moves ne across Texas and is offshore or nc as the trough starts to go wild. But the 12-16 unit feature that spins up into what we think may be feedback induced does start off Mexico....it doesn't come out of thin air although it may well be an error.

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it has good teleconnector support...NAO is falling...we just have to see if it can deliver.

It's always a positive thing when you have the teleconnector support, if we didn't have that here than I'd probably be real worried but that's not this case, fortunately.

Like others have mentioned as well, we've seen the models start to handle the northern stream much better once were inside the 48-HR mark and by the 18z runs today and definitely the 0z runs tonight the models should hopefully have a much better handle on it. It really doesn't need to be too much stronger or dig much more to produce a major hit for the entire area.

One difference here as well is the fact that this doesn't appear as if it will close off at H5, or at least not in time to be a benefit to us. With the past few systems we have seen the storm close off so when you add that to the extreme negative tilts it's been a huge boost in bringing the storm further to the west.

This one may have a pretty tight gradient where parts of eastern CT could end up with 6-10'' while western parts of the state get very little.

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Need some serious NW action to get all of SNE back into the good snow, as it stands this reminds me of the early december storm that as the mets put it "wide right" it looked good and at the critial moment skooted off to the right. on the RI/MA border most likely I will see some snow but for CT/Western MA going to need a 50+ miles west swing and the clock is ticking.

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Eh, modeling sucks these days anyway. The only thing that is certain in that is the polar and intermediate stream interaction, and the immense complexity of determining what will happen because of it.

The 06z actually came midway back to the 12z run yesterday: (18z + 12z)/2 = 06z …Now the 12z backs out, granted… Whereas, the Euro did slightly trend W on the 00z run compared to the flat appeal of the 12z yesterday, while the GGEM (Canadian) held serve with a 6-12er. Hell, even the “GONAPS” model had a light to moderate event on Friday.

I think those subtle but all important variance in depictions, combined with mentioned complexity is enough to keep a vigil at least. Whatever happens, it would have to be of the NJ Model low variety most likely, due to the heights being somewhat elevated …with higher mid level geostrophic wind velocities across the TV/deep SE. Those factors indicate less compressibility to the flow, and troughs not being able to dig deeply.

Besides, it is hard to get a big event right on the heels of a big event for a reason. Although, technically the last event was of moderate caliber; so too should Friday’s system be.

Next week is interesting, too.

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Can I quote you on this in the future?

Use the report function if you have any problems in the future...I see very few reports ever from the threads here. If you have any other problems PM me...we have a banter/obs thread, this is a storm threat thread.

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Use the report function if you have any problems in the future...I see very few reports ever from the threads here. If you have any other problems PM me...we have a banter/obs thread, this is a storm threat thread.

IMO if the same strictness that's enforced in other regions is enforced here a lot of the hurt feelings etc would end. Eventually enough sh77 sticks to the wall and people lose it. Thanks will for cleaning up this thread.

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The rgem doesn't appear to have the same spinup as the nam. Not really a surprise is it? The rest of the suite should be fine. As a disclaimer the bw charts make it tough to be sure but there seems to be no sign of the offshore feature on the nam. Good news.

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I meant to say it's held back more with the southern stream, it's also more held back than the NAM is.

Which is not a good thing. Less southern stream energy gets absorbed into the main shortwave and its going to be less impressive. The northern stream didn't dig as much as 06z either so its going to be a less impressive solution.

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Which is not a good thing. Less southern stream energy gets absorbed into the main shortwave and its going to be less impressive. The northern stream didn't dig as much as 06z either so its going to be a less impressive solution.

Yeah through 36 HR this does not look very impressive at all. Maybe things can improve over the next few frames.

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