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Friday, January 21st Storm Discussion


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Wait, but I thought the NAM was the best model in the world? What a joke. Look at that amazing continuity!

Lol, yeah funny isn't it?

NAM continuity Phail. In reality at 500 and even at the surface it wasn't very consistent at all as it hunted for a solution. The 18z was closer to the gfs just slower at 5h, This run found a new solution.

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I still like the 0z NAM...just seems a bit faster and further east with everything...still showing the negative tilt early enough...I'm still confident of a solid hit for the region. Not going to live and die on every single run...I like what I see. Just b/c a run doesn't show a big hit doesn't mean that's going to happen.

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Doesn't quite complete the phase this run. On the other hand, "digginess" continues to trend toward improvement. We'll see what the globals say. Nice to have the SREFs in our corner, but they hold little weight without the NAM, and vice versa. Though really the NAM is only like 100 miles away from this phasing over Indiana and exploding on the east coast. Again though, lack luster results from the GFS and Euro will be like needles to the NAM/SREF balloons.

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Doesn't quite complete the phase this run. On the other hand, "digginess" continues to trend toward improvement. We'll see what the globals say. Nice to have the SREFs in our corner, but they hold little weight without the NAM, and vice versa. Though really the NAM is only like 100 miles away from this phasing over Indiana and exploding on the east coast. Again though, lack luster results from the GFS and Euro will be like needles to the NAM/SREF balloons.

The only thing that is digging is this potential's grave. :lol:

I still feel a mod event is possible, even that may be losing steam.

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I still like the 0z NAM...just seems a bit faster and further east with everything...still showing the negative tilt early enough...I'm still confident of a solid hit for the region. Not going to live and die on every single run...I like what I see. Just b/c a run doesn't show a big hit doesn't mean that's going to happen.

The GFS or the EURO haven't shown a big hit for quite some time.

The 18z GFS ens were ok.

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I still like the 0z NAM...just seems a bit faster and further east with everything...still showing the negative tilt early enough...I'm still confident of a solid hit for the region. Not going to live and die on every single run...I like what I see. Just b/c a run doesn't show a big hit doesn't mean that's going to happen.

All very true. But the idea the nam was consistent....bs. All it's been consistent in doing is moving south or southeast of the 0z solution last night. Every single run has nudged further to sea.

It may change in the end but humpty dumpty fell off the wall

Now what we have is movement towards the euro consensus.

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All very true. But the idea the nam was consistent....bs. All it's been consistent in doing is moving south or southeast of the 0z solution last night. Every single run has nudged further to sea.

It may change in the end but humpty dumpty fell off the wall

Now what we have is movement towards the euro consensus.

Right....mod potential, here.

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Absolutely, how could anyone complain this year, funny how it has evened out this year with Most between 35-45 , lots of stiff weenies.

Two things caused me to never really latch onto Friday:

1) The GFS and EURO were never big on it; they were mod a few days ago and have trended to sh**.

Only the long range NAM and GEM ever made this big.....NAM gone to sh**, GEM pending.

2) I would be close to a 3' snowpack if this went big and that just doesn't happen, other than in Feb 1969, so climo tells me that we wait until my snowpack takes a beating before we get hit hard, again.

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2-4 seems reasonable down here.

The question is...is the inevitable undeniable, relentless nw trend going to bring it far enough back for a major hit once the se trend stops?

That my friend has been the trend in a trendy year. If it is tomorrow at noon will be the first indication. There is a ton of Big storm potential in this. Something to watch is the southern stream, if that slows even by six hours this bombs.

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