Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 0c gets pushed to the blue ridge mnts, to north of dc before collapsing back east big winner in va would be I-81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, psuhoffman said: ok technically its all rain at DCA because surface temps are around 35 throughout the storm. However, for arguments sake lets say the surface temps are a bit warm at this range on the Euro, according to 850's .46 falls as snow then 1.0 rain then another .9 snow What about IAD and BWI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, Midlo Snow Maker said: 0c gets pushed to the blue ridge mnts, to north of dc before collapsing back east big winner in va would be I-81 ROA 1.71" all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:34 AM, CRAZYBLIZZARD said: I guess the question is, where the is the rain snow line for DC, Balt, York etc and up the coast a little. BWI gets to .6 at the height of the storm at its warmest point on the soundings so I would say the rain snow line gets just past Baltimore at its furthest north/west progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, Midlo Snow Maker said: 0c gets pushed to the blue ridge mnts, to north of dc before collapsing back east big winner in va would be I-81 So verbatim Baltimore would be a heavy wet snow for the length of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 man the models must have really got some alarming data tonight every model is on crack output mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, psuhoffman said: ok technically its all rain at DCA because surface temps are around 35 throughout the storm. However, for arguments sake lets say the surface temps are a bit warm at this range on the Euro, according to 850's .46 falls as snow then 1.0 rain then another .9 snow Wait.......is that 1.36" in the form of snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, Midlo Snow Maker said: 0c gets pushed to the blue ridge mnts, to north of dc before collapsing back east big winner in va would be I-81 Being in LYH, I'm slightly east of I-81, how's it look for us? Sounds like the temps would be too warm for the bulk of the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Any thoughts on BWI, or MDT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 "How much for Towson?" ;-) Seriously though, does Baltimore changeover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:40 AM, ravensrule said: So verbatim Baltimore would be a heavy wet snow for the length of the storm. looks warm at the surface but who cares this far out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:38 AM, psuhoffman said: ok technically its all rain at DCA because surface temps are around 35 throughout the storm. However, for arguments sake lets say the surface temps are a bit warm at this range on the Euro, according to 850's .46 falls as snow then 1.0 rain then another .9 snow Where do you get the data? SOunds like you have pay stuff, but does it say rain? To me that looks like heavy wet snow and with temps at the surface of 35 and those heights aloft--I would have to bet that warm layer is extremely shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:39 AM, Fozz said: What about IAD and BWI? BWI gets to .6 at 850 at the height IAD gets to .5 most of the storm would be snow in those 2 locations but the heaviest falls during the warmest point so its about half rain/snow for those spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:40 AM, TowsonWeather said: "How much for Towson?" ;-) Seriously though, does Baltimore changeover? Everyone in the I95 BAL/DC corridor changes over at some point before going back apparently. The storm is just a brute monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:41 AM, PhineasC said: Insane The end times are upon us. These solutions are eye-popping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:40 AM, MichaelScott said: Being in LYH, I'm slightly east of I-81, how's it look for us? Sounds like the temps would be too warm for the bulk of the precip. gonna be close per this run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:41 AM, Midlo Snow Maker said: looks warm at the surface but who cares this far out I know there is a 0% chance of this being right but i was just wondering where the 850 line set up. Thanks Midlo, i hope this trends east so you can get slammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:42 AM, baroclinic_instability said: Where do you get the data? SOunds like you have pay stuff, but does it say rain? To me that looks like heavy wet snow and with temps at the surface of 35 and those heights aloft--I would have to bet that warm layer is extremely shallow. I have special sources accuweather pro site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:42 AM, psuhoffman said: BWI gets to .6 at 850 at the height IAD gets to .5 most of the storm would be snow in those 2 locations but the heaviest falls during the warmest point so its about half rain/snow for those spots And of course you will remain snow the whole time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inudaw Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Gfs sniffed something good tonight and decided to share with every other model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 What the hell did the models ingest tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:43 AM, psuhoffman said: I have special sources accuweather pro site So where does Mount Hoffman and Mount Crazyblizzard stand? Looks like we would be almost all snow and damn pasty snow at that? Front end loader, flame thrower,or jack hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:40 AM, Midlo Snow Maker said: man the models must have really got some alarming data tonight every model is on crack output mode yup...that's about all you can say at this point...i haven't really seen models go this crazy all at once in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:42 AM, baroclinic_instability said: Where do you get the data? SOunds like you have pay stuff, but does it say rain? To me that looks like heavy wet snow and with temps at the surface of 35 and those heights aloft--I would have to bet that warm layer is extremely shallow. yea I would agree this screams heavy wet snow, if the euro were to verify like that it would probably be very similar to March 1958 when any elevated areas just west of the cities got massive wet snowfall amounts while the lower elevations and in the cities did well and got 8-12" of heavy wet snow but had a lot of mixing issues when precip rates let up at times. I know the setup of these storms is not the same, just referring to the temperature profiles of the two events and the track of the H5 low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:45 AM, PhineasC said: What the hell did the models ingest tonight? I don't know, but we can't afford any more wild-ass westward swings like this. At this rate we will be dry-slotted and 70 degrees by next week. MDstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:44 AM, ravensrule said: And of course you will remain snow the whole time . meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:46 AM, CRAZYBLIZZARD said: So where does Mount Hoffman and Mount Crazyblizzard stand? Looks like we would be almost all snow and damn pasty snow at that? Front end loader, flame thrower,or jack hammer? Westminster MD remains below 0 at 850 throughout with surface temps from 31-33. 2.23 liquid all snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 500mb closes off at 528 northwest of rdu at hr 132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On 1/21/2011 at 6:45 AM, PhineasC said: What the hell did the models ingest tonight? I did a little programming You stay below 0 at 850 but surface gets to 3c for a time. Wouldnt worry about surface temps on the euro this far out anyways. Hell wouldnt worry about anything specific this far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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