thesnowsknows Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I understand no WSW...but not even a Hazardous weather outlook? The NWS is clowning hard right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The last couple of days seem to have had a string of first-posters trickle in and ask IMBY questions... Don't know why the Storm Mode link is still not working despite people bringing it up yesterday. It's been working for me for the last 18. Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If you've read the thread, you'd see nobody has a good idea of what will happen anywhere yet. It could be heavy precip or just moderate; it could rain or could snow.... Way too early for those kinds of questions, weather channel is what you should look at lol Please do not point the poster towards the weather channel. That's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathercoins Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Got some flurries here in college park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It's been working for me for the last 18. Hours Not working for me Randy... I get a board message error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathercoins Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Please do not point the poster towards the weather channel. That's just silly. Hahaha lame attempt at a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It's been working for me for the last 18. Hours Maybe because you're an admin? Looks like a permission issue? [#2036] You do not have permission to read the requested announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcwx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I understand no WSW...but not even a Hazardous weather outlook? The NWS is clowning hard right now... I would imagine they are holding off for one more run of consistency after 6z scaled precip back. If 12z is a hit, expect watches/warnings to be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickinBaltimore Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Please do not point the poster towards the weather channel. That's just silly. Yeah the Weather Channel still has Baltimore at 38 tomorrow with rain, no mention of snow or a mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It's been well below freezing for what, the last 96 hours or more? Does the ground warm up that fast? Depends on insolation, RH during the warmup, the amount of liquid precip that interacts with the frozen ground and, of course, the duration of each. The same high RH or insolation that can quickly destroy a snow field acts on frozen ground nearly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Can we move on from the great wsw debate now? It's gone on long enough. Lwx prob forgets more stuff than may of you know. They're pros for a reason. And in the scheme of things, does it really make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 this is actually good news because all winter long in the last 24 hours, there have been north trends and will probably be another north trend at 00z based on what we have seen this year. depends Ji, its not really a trend south its that the last few runs before 6z were really winding the low up better and more consolidated with the upper features right at our lattitude so the CCB blew up right over us and really just thumped for 6 hours before swinging northeast. Now the 6z and latest SREF backed off on that idea and again keep the surface low seperate and slide it out, then slide the upper low through a few hours later. So we are back to what we had before last nights runs, just the upper energy sliding east behind the surface storm. Not a bad solution for you but now the 10" idea that was on the table with the 0z runs. Furthermore, that solutions is pretty bad for my area, because the H5 is going to track a little too far south for me to get really heavy precip from that alone, if the slp doesnt get going in time to get the ccb in here I am probably getting fringed up here. However, it is just one run and could easily shift back at 12 or 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcwx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Please do not point the poster towards the weather channel. That's just silly. Weather Channel has all rain for me in DC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 SREF's don't get the heaviest qpf in BWI until 850 crashes after 36 hours plus, the 0 850 line never gets past BWI, and that''s a first on any of the SREF runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Depends on insolation, RH during the warmup, the amount of liquid precip that interacts with the frozen ground and, of course, the duration of each. The same high RH or insolation that can quickly destroy a snow field acts on frozen ground nearly the same. Yeah, fog will just tear up a snow field like nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnowsknows Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I would imagine they are holding off for one more run of consistency after 6z scaled precip back. If 12z is a hit, expect watches/warnings to be posted. Understandable, but I've seen Hazardous outlooks posted for marginally high winds... The prospect of up to 4 inches of snow or more should at least warrant a HWO. But oh well, like posted earlier, doesn't really matter what NWS does. Just thought their inconsistency was a little interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 All: Per the NWS Winter Storm Watch This product is issued by the National Weather Service when there is a potential for heavy snow or significant ice accumulations, usually at least 24 to 36 hours in advance. The criteria for this watch can vary from place to place. Should WSW go up, they will be issued later today. Please be patient!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedaNoreaster Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Graubel(?) falling in Laurel / Beltsville, MD. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Maybe because you're an admin? Looks like a permission issue? That must be it. Give me a few mins. Almost at work. I can enable there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcwx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Understandable, but I've seen Hazardous outlooks posted for marginally high winds... The prospect of up to 4 inches of snow or more should at least warrant a HWO. But oh well, like posted earlier, doesn't really matter what NWS does. Just thought their inconsistency was a little interesting. After posting the WSW for the december storm for 6-10 inches and then getting burned with a trace for most of the area, I can see why they are cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have never seen such ridiculous panic over the 06Z suite. You all should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 That must be it. Give me a few mins. Almost at work. I can enable there Thanks, Randy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwonder Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I would imagine they are holding off for one more run of consistency after 6z scaled precip back. If 12z is a hit, expect watches/warnings to be posted. 12Z is when they input the data from the reconnaissance mission - and therefore, a little nervous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeannapolis Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 then read more and post less. The message is probably correct. But your tone is awful. There is some great knowledge on this board which is helpful to the less knowledgeable, but if new folks come here and feel abused, then that knowledge is wasted. BTW the storm mode link is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb@MAWS Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 http://www.weather.gov/ WSW staring to go up in SWVA and the NE And for all the obvious reasons -- SW VA gets the precip (and changeover) earlier and NE US looks cold enuf for a decent snowstorm with the current progged track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathercoins Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Weather Channel has all rain for me in DC... Weather channel is generally 12-18 hours behind any forecast updates... I remember as a kid some massive storms coming but in the last 36 hours trended away from us or turned too warm... so I would turn to the Weather Channel to see an outdated forecast and give me hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 enough with the WSW watch..12 z NAM at 18 hours still has no precip in the area. If there is a watch, it will happen in the 3pm update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnowsknows Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 NAM through 18 looks identical to 6z, but at that point it looked fine anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 NAM through 18 looks identical to 6z, but at that point it looked fine anyways there is actually more of negative tilt on the UL at 12z but probably minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb@MAWS Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Looks like we had a short period of graupel at some point. Looks like the driveway deicer pellets all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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