Stevo6899 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 wasn't that storm ALL northern stream ? I thought it cut thru michigan The dec 12 storm came out of canada like this northern low does and basically tracked along I 80 and dumped 20 or so inches on minny before occluding. A secondary developed near lake erie and dumped 4-7 inches. Not likley this time but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 on most of the models around 84-96 have a look that would make me excited as well. Very sharp trough digging deep with a slightly pos tilt. Then the damn thing just moves east without ever going neg. DGEX is a perfect example. Whatever needs to happen to get that trough to back neg just isn't there. I can't figure out why unless it's that additional piece of energy showing up on the back side of the trough...or....something going on in the north atlantic. it could be the kicker in the northern stream? if you ask me , it could be the rebuilding NAO, which is even stronger on the 18z i could be wrong though, it probably a lot more compex than that .....but it seems to not give any room to amplify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 it could be the kicker in the northern stream? if you ask me , it could be the rebuilding NAO, which is even stronger on the 18z i could be wrong though, it probably a lot more compex than that .....but it seems to not give any room to amplify See my last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 See my last post. cool thanks Harry. either way, its trending poorly at the upper levels for me on the NCEP models. ahh well, what are you gonna do....except hope 00z makes a comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The dec 12 storm came out of canada like this northern low does and basically tracked along I 80 and dumped 20 or so inches on minny before occluding. A secondary developed near lake erie and dumped 4-7 inches. Not likley this time but who knows. You're infatuated with december 12, get a lot of snow with that one or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 yeah, the Models have completely flipped on the NAO in recent days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 You're infatuated with december 12, get a lot of snow with that one or something? Lol no. Just saying its time for that storm on the LRC and the models are showing the same thing 4-5 days out this time around as they did then. Thats where it ends though as I think the southern wave will be more domnate this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 yeah, the Models have completely flipped on the NAO in recent days. Yea I am not sure if that storm OTS at hour 48 is reinforcing the west based NAO or pushing the east based NAO too far east to block this upcoming storm west. Who knows anymore. All I know is the models struggle with phasing and depicting a change in the NAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ....i would drool if i saw these....but then i puke when i see the final outcome edit: i didn't show the ukie because it is probably the farthest west solution right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 it could be the kicker in the northern stream? if you ask me , it could be the rebuilding NAO, which is even stronger on the 18z i could be wrong though, it probably a lot more compex than that .....but it seems to not give any room to amplify If this thing cant track from the gulf to Ohio then this works fine for me. Pretty sure such a strong clipper would have more QPF then what is being shown on these runs anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Lol no. Just saying its time for that storm on the LRC and the models are showing the same thing 4-5 days out this time around as they did then. Thats where it ends though as I think the southern wave will be more domnate this time. Same as far as what? I don't think the models had that low on the east coast at the 4-5 day timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Same as far as what? I don't think the models had that low on the east coast at the 4-5 day timeframe. Yeah lets clear the air here. Dec 12 4-5 days out had solutions ranging from Lake MI (Euro) to the TN Valley, GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherguru Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 All crap and nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 All crap and nonsense. So you're not going with a NW trend and a track for Chicago to be buried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Lol no. Just saying its time for that storm on the LRC and the models are showing the same thing 4-5 days out this time around as they did then. Thats where it ends though as I think the southern wave will be more domnate this time. I only ask because that is like the 10th time you've mention december 12. And I don't remember models showing on dec 12 what the models are showing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherguru Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 So you're not going with a NW trend and a track for Chicago to be buried? If this storm or whatever its called had any once of moisture then that might be a different story. BTW, your avator gives me the butterflies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 So you're not going with a NW trend and a track for Chicago to be buried? once he gets a sniff of one model coming close to it he'll be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 If this storm or whatever its called had any once of moisture then that might be a different story. BTW, your avator gives me the butterflies I am surprised you aren't going bombastic with an exploding southern wave rendering Chicago a post-apocalyptic war-zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherguru Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I am surprised you aren't going bombastic with an exploding southern wave rendering Chicago a post-apocalyptic war-zone. Sent you a pm. 1 post left of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Yeah lets clear the air here. Dec 12 4-5 days out had solutions ranging from Lake MI (Euro) to the TN Valley, GFS. The euro was the only model and it was too far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 :weenie: :weenie: :weenie: ....on that note, i gotta run or my wife is gonna de-weenie me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Sent you a pm. 1 post left of the day. like what I did, he'll probably delete it right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 You're infatuated with december 12, get a lot of snow with that one or something? Not that it's saying much, but it was Detroit's "biggest" storm of the season. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 :weenie: :weenie: :weenie: ....on that note, i gotta run or my wife is gonna de-weenie me On what note? And why the marxh 08 maps? Guess I'm dumb and don't get it lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 On what note? And why the marxh 08 maps? Guess I'm dumb and don't get it lol.. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2008/us0309j3.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Not that it's saying much, but it was Detroit's "biggest" storm of the season. lol. LOL nah we got more with the most recent one, atleast IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2008/us0309j3.php Whatever that link is it won't show up on my phone, maybe just explained why he said that and then threw the 08 blizzard maps up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 P001 = otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 :weenie: :weenie: :weenie: ....on that note, i gotta run or my wife is gonna de-weenie me that was a beauty 2 feet here, but look at the marvelous heights right up the east coast of north america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 P001 = otherwise wow those are awful but fit right in with what is expected outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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