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PHL Jan 17-19 Snow/Ice/Rain Storm Obs


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till the euro comes in at 0z and shows 1-2 inches of qpf, then 3-6 goes to 10-15 from you lol.

:lol:

Yeah I just posted "watch the EC come in with a bomb tonight" in the other thread ;)

But I've learned that lesson, I want 4 runs of the EC showing something similar before I bite on a sudden flip like that. Got burned by it twice in December...

I should also probably learn the lesson of altering my forecast at the last second... nearly got burned on that during the last couple storms (lowered 6-10 to 4-8 when 6-10 was fine, in fact better, for 1/11... and raised coating-2 to 1-3 for the storm last night when the coating-2 was fine, and in fact better... )

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Yeah I just posted "watch the EC come in with a bomb tonight" in the other thread ;)

But I've learned that lesson, I want 4 runs of the EC showing something similar before I bite on a sudden flip like that. Got burned by it twice in December...

I should also probably learn the lesson of altering my forecast at the last second... nearly got burned on that during the last couple storms (lowered 6-10 to 4-8 when 6-10 was fine, in fact better, for 1/11... and raised coating-2 to 1-3 for the storm last night when the coating-2 was fine, and in fact better... )

you better bump your low temperature thread before it buried. This weekend is going to have plenty of additions.

gfs has 5 for monday morn

with 8 and 9 for sat and sun morning

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you better bump your low temperature thread before it buried. This weekend is going to have plenty of additions.

gfs has 5 for monday morn

with 8 and 9 for sat and sun morning

I'm glad, that's what I was hoping to get out of this pattern more than anything else... some temps back toward normal for winter lows back home. A real test for the redwood ;)

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Temps as of midnight...

TTN 12am 36

DYL 12am 33

NXX 12am 34

WRI 12am 34

VAY 12am 34

SMQ 12am 35

LOM 12am 35

NEL 12am 35

UKT 12am 32

PHL 12am 34

MJX 12am 36

BLM 12am 36

PTW 12am 36

KXLL12am 34

MMU 12am 35

ABE 12am 35

EWR 12am 38

CDW 12am 35

12N 12am 32

TEB 12am 36

NYC 12am 36

ACY 12am 36

ILG 12am 34

LGA 12am 38

MQS 12am 32

JFK 12am 37

RDG 12am 34

MIV 12am 34

MPO 12am 31

FWN 12am 33

LNS 12am 33

HPN 12am 34

FRG 12am 35

DOV 12am 35

AVP 12am 32

WWD 12am 36

MGJ 12am 32

SWF 12am 32

MUI 12am 33

GED 12am 34

ESN 12am 32

W29 12am 32

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Temps at 1AM... its raining at RDG, LNS and MUI:

TTN 1am 36

DYL 1am 33

PNE 1am 35

NXX 1am 34

WRI 1am 34

VAY 1am 35

SMQ 1am 35

LOM 1am 34

NEL 1am 34

UKT 1am 32

PHL 1am 35

MJX 1am 34

BLM 1am 36

PTW 1am 36

KXLL 1am 34

MMU 1am 33

ABE 1am 34

EWR 1am 38

CDW 1am 34

TEB 1am 36

NYC 1am 36

ACY 1am 35

ILG 1am 34

LGA 1am 38

MQS 1am 32

JFK 1am 37

RDG 1am 34

MIV 1am 34

MPO 1am 32

FWN 1am 33

LNS 1am 33

HPN 1am 33

FRG 1am 34

DOV 1am 35

AVP 1am 32

WWD 1am 34

MGJ 1am 32

SWF 1am 32

MUI 1am 33

12N 1am 32

GED 1am 34

ESN 1am 32

W29 1am 32

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Since the GFS and NAM both insist that there will be nothing but rain back home later tonight (which is totally believable based on the latest obs from central PA and current temps generally on the plus side of freezing), I'm checking out for tonight. I'll probably do a snowfall map for this event tomorrow evening (late evening by east coast time). Not that there's all that much to plot other than 1-3"...

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Still over freezing at 33.8, but the overnight rain has flipped over to light snow.

That's good news...I'm at 33F just north of NYC, wondering what these next couple of bands are going to be. The stuff back in PA may swing a bit NE of here, and not sure I'm cold enough for the first round though I'll find out in minutes.

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That's good to hear, hovering at 34 this morning with fog......

Just woke up and took a quick look at all the 00z and 06z models....appears like it safe to say 2-4" with a potential for 6" is a good bet Thur. night-Friday morning in eastern PA. Still 36 hours away, so changes can occur.

Follow that up with single digits this weekend, maybe a few spots making a run at zero or below, north of I-78?

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That's good to hear, hovering at 34 this morning with fog......

Just woke up and took a quick look at all the 00z and 06z models....appears like it safe to say 2-4" with a potential for 6" is a good bet Thur. night-Friday morning in eastern PA. Still 36 hours away, so changes can occur.

Follow that up with single digits this weekend, maybe a few spots making a run at zero or below, north of I-78?

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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Still over freezing at 33.8, but the overnight rain has flipped over to light snow.

This put just enough of a coating on everything for my boss to park my truck for the day. I run a couple of steep hills in the mine, and he didn't want to risk sliding into a ditch or a bank, or worse. This week has been nearly a total loss as it looks like I'll only work two days. Monday, and tomorrow, as we'll likely be off again on Friday.

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Current Obs

Fog

Temp 32.9

Driveway remains very icy...in fact a water delivery truck could not make it down my drive. Looks like some lite precip will pass thru over the next hour and then we should warm well above freezing today. Then a solid 4 or 5" of snow for Friday AM. Single digit lows over the weekend with a near 0 possible on Tuesday AM before the next snow chance. This has really been quite the winter in the Philly burbs!

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Totals from Tuesday morning... some are duplicates, I know... I'll try to plot these up later this evening...

...ATLANTIC COUNTY...
  Buena Vista Twp 2.6 NNE         0.5   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  ESTELL MANOR                      T   800 AM  1/18
  ATLANTIC CITY                     T   700 AM  1/18  AIRPORT
  MARGATE CITY                      T   905 AM  1/18
  HAMMONTON                         T   800 AM  1/18
  PLEASANTVILLE                     T   700 AM  1/18
  Egg Harbor Twp 1.3 NW             T   820 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP             T           1/17  COOP
  HAMMONTON 1 NE                    T           1/18  COOP

...BERGEN COUNTY...
  GARFIELD                        2.6   530 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  1 SSE OAKLAND                   2.0   700 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  WNW OAKLAND                     2.0   700 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  Oakland 0.9 SSE                 2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Oakland 0.2 WNW                 2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  1 W TENAFLY                     1.8   630 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  Saddle Brook Twp 0.6 E          1.8   630 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Tenafly 1.3 W                   1.8   630 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Glen Rock 0.7 SSE               1.8   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  RIDGEWOOD                       1.6   530 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         

...BURLINGTON COUNTY...
  FLORENCE                        1.8   130 AM  1/18
  WRIGHTSTOWN                     1.5   830 AM  1/18
  Moorestown Twp 0.6 SE           1.5   813 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Burlington 1.7 E                1.0   730 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Medford Twp 2.4 SSE             1.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  MOUNT HOLLY                     0.9   700 AM  1/18  NWS OFFICE
  MOUNT LAUREL                    0.8   600 AM  1/18
  Mount Laurel Twp 2.5 ENE        0.8   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...CAMDEN COUNTY...
  SOMERDALE                       1.1   700 AM  1/18
  Berlin Twp 0.6 WNW              0.5  1000 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
  SEABROOK FARMS                  1.0   916 AM  1/18
  VINELAND                        0.1   900 AM  1/18

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  CEDAR GROVE                     2.3   600 AM  1/18  PUBLIC                  
  WEST ORANGE                     2.0  1200 PM  1/18  PUBLIC                  
  NEWARK AIRPORT                  1.9   700 AM  1/18  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER   
  MILLBURN                        1.5   847 AM  1/18  PUBLIC                  

...GLOUCESTER COUNTY...
  NATIONAL PARK                   1.0   700 AM  1/18
  GLASSBORO                       1.0   705 AM  1/18
  SEWELL                          0.8   630 AM  1/18
  Mantua Twp 1.5 E                0.8   630 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...HUDSON COUNTY...
  HARRISON                        2.0   754 AM  1/18  NWS COOP                
  Harrison 0.3 N                  2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Kearny 1.7 NW                   2.0  1200 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  HOBOKEN                         1.5   822 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         

...HUNTERDON COUNTY...
  Bethlehem Twp 0.6 S             2.0   630 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  WHITEHOUSE                      2.0   700 AM  1/18
  Holland Twp 2.6 NNE             2.0   630 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  Lebanon 2.8 N                   2.0   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Lebanon 3.2 SW                  1.6   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  WERTSVILLE                      1.5   904 AM  1/18
  Franklin Twp 2.8 NNE            1.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Flemington 2.3 E                1.5   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Readington Twp 1.8 ENE          1.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Flemington 0.3 E                1.5   630 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  WERTSVILLE 4 NE                 1.5           1/18  COOP
  High Bridge 0.6 WNW             1.3   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Readington Twp 2.0 WSW          1.2   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  FLEMINGTON                      1.0   842 AM  1/18
  Califon 0.6 NW                  1.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Clinton Twp 3.9 N               1.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  FLEMINGTON 5 NNW                1.0           1/18  COOP

...MERCER COUNTY...
  HOPEWELL                        2.0   940 AM  1/18
  Pennington 0.6 ENE              1.9   845 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Washington Twp 1.7 WSW          1.5   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  EWING                           1.4   414 AM  1/18
  Lawrence Twp 1.0 NNW            1.4   530 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Ewing Twp 0.8 ESE               1.4  1159 PM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  HIGHTSTOWN                      1.0   700 AM  1/18
  HIGHTSTOWN 2 W                  1.0           1/18  COOP
  Lawrence Twp 1.8 SSW            0.8   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Princeton Twp 2.2 SSE           0.6   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...
  EDISON                          1.5  1041 AM  1/18
  NEW BRUNSWICK                   1.2   826 AM  1/18
  METUCHEN                        1.2   436 AM  1/18
  CHEESEQUAKE                     1.2   300 AM  1/18
  South Plainfield 0.8 ENE        1.2   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE              1.2           1/18  COOP
  North Brunswick Twp 1.5 W       1.1   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...MONMOUTH COUNTY...
  Holmdel Twp 0.7 E               1.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Howell Twp 2.5 W                1.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Belmar 1.5 W                    1.0   544 PM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Red Bank 1.3 NW                 0.8   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  MANASQUAN                       0.6   947 AM  1/18

...MORRIS COUNTY...
  Mount Olive Twp 2.1 WNW         2.6   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  GREEN POND                      2.5  1030 AM  1/18
  Jefferson Twp 2.4 ENE           2.4   700 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  BUTLER                          2.0  1106 AM  1/18
  Rockaway 0.4 NNW                2.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Long Hill Twp 1.8 WSW           2.0   900 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Randolph Twp 0.8 W              2.0   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Mine Hill Twp 0.4 NE            2.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Randolph Twp 2.1 ESE            2.0   928 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Parsippany-Troy Hills Twp 2.1 E 2.0   830 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Chatham 0.6 NW                  2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Roxbury Twp 1.7 S               1.9   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Harding Twp 2.6 NNW             1.7   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Randolph Twp 2.0 E              1.7   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Boonton Twp 1.6 SSE             1.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  POTTERSVILLE 2 NNW              1.0           1/18  COOP

...OCEAN COUNTY...
  Point Pleasant Beach 0.5 SW     0.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Jackson Twp 4.1 NNW             0.5   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Berkeley Twp 4.9 SE             0.4   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Pine Beach 0.4 NW               0.2   815 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Little Egg Harbor Twp 5.4 N       T   500 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...PASSAIC COUNTY...
  WEST MILFORD                    3.0  1000 AM  1/18  PUBLIC                  
  1 SSE HAWTHORNE                 2.5   700 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  HAWTHORNE                       2.5   650 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  3 NE WEST MILFORD TW            2.5   600 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  Hawthorne 1.0 SSE               2.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  West Milford Twp 3.2 NE         2.5   600 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  1 WNW LITTLE FALLS T            2.0   800 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  1 S WANAQUE                     2.0   800 AM  1/18  COCORAHS                
  RINGWOOD                        2.0   822 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  Little Falls Twp 0.5 WNW        2.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Wanaque 0.6 S                   2.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
  Bernards Twp 0.6 NNW            2.9   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  BRIDGEWATER TWP                 1.5   831 AM  1/18
  SOMERVILLE                      1.5   815 AM  1/18
  Hillsborough Twp 4.7 ESE        1.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Bernards Twp 0.9 ENE            1.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Bridgewater Twp 3.3 NW          1.5   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Somerville 0.2 ENE              1.5   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Hillsborough Twp 1.0 N          1.4   900 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Hillsborough Twp 0.4 ENE        1.3   420 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Bernards Twp 0.7 NW             1.2   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  POTTERSVILLE                    1.0   829 AM  1/18
  BRANCHBURG PARK                 1.0   900 AM  1/18
  Franklin Twp 2.1 ENE            1.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Montgomery Twp 3.0 NE           1.0   815 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Montgomery Twp 1.8 NNE          1.0   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...SUSSEX COUNTY...
  Andover Twp 1.7 W               2.1   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Hardyston Twp 3.2 SE            2.1   730 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Wantage Twp 2.4 SW              2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  SUSSEX 2 NW                     2.0           1/19  COOP
  WANTAGE                         1.8   623 AM  1/18  MIXING WITH SLEET
  SUSSEX                          1.7   827 AM  1/18
  HAMPTON TWP                     1.7   730 AM  1/18

...UNION COUNTY...
  ELIZABETH                       1.7   800 AM  1/18  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  New Providence 0.8 ESE          1.5   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

...WARREN COUNTY...
  Liberty Twp 1.7 WSW             2.3   900 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  Blairstown Twp 2.0 SE           2.0   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Allamuchy Twp 1.7 NNW           1.9   800 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS
  Washington 0.6 ENE              1.8   600 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  Independence Twp 2.8 SE         1.6   700 AM  1/19  CoCoRaHS
  RIEGELSVILLE                    1.5   700 AM  1/18
  HACKETTSTOWN                    1.5   708 AM  1/18
  STEWARTSVILLE                   1.4   839 AM  1/18
  Greenwich Twp 1.6 S             1.4   700 AM  1/18  CoCoRaHS

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