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IMO, that "money in the bank" southern stream feature on the GFS should not be dismissed yet for Friday. I know it manages to crush it out to sea, but a slight shift in the northern stream and it could roar back as a threat. I still tend to think that with trough amplification in the Midwest we may get more phasing in with that southern feature.

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since i'm fairly new to moving back to mass....i'm not familiar where the line is actually drawn for icing spots vs. spots ray's .

I mean it would seem to me in a scenario where we have over running precip ....along a front....the icing line would be further E including spots like nashua.....lawrence.....bedford....framingham.....etc.

but with a situation like we have coming up....the low is tracking up the coast and strengthening.....that icing will be far interior....unless low is weaker and further offshore?

i mean does the 495/95 belt ever ice with a strengthening low moving up toward ACK.....and a HP to the east?

Pretty much have to get west of the outter rt 128 belt and icing climo ramps up from there.

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I was in one epic FZRA event in Ottawa in the Fall of 1985 when I went to school there that year.... .

Sometimes you can have a sneaky layer around here ...lets say 750 ft to 1500 ft where FZRA can really hang on while the Urban areas of the HV go to like 34F rain and the areas over 1500" don't keep the favorable ageo winds and shoot up over 32F....

total opposite here

ottawa valley probably recieves more freezing rain than any populated place on earth.

surrounding areas will be all above freezing but the city of ottawa locks in the cold relentlessly.

at the same time, ive seen situaitons where the CAD gets scoured out by strong WAA so quickly, it makes your head spin.

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I was in one epic FZRA event in Ottawa in the Fall of 1985 when I went to school there that year.... .

Sometimes you can have a sneaky layer around here ...lets say 750 ft to 1500 ft where FZRA can really hang on while the Urban areas of the HV go to like 34F rain and the areas over 1500" don't keep the favorable ageo winds and shoot up over 32F....

Yea, Will really gave me a very extensive lesson on this right after the Dec 2008 event because I was curious, but I forget alot of the details.....the gist of it was that the inversion is such in this area that around 1000' is best.

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Snow falling off the trees...what a disaster.

Yesterday's forecast high for today imby was 28*...this moring it was 30*....those forecasts FTL.

34.7 and going to town.

im gonna get flamed but addressing semantics...

snowpack 'locking in' the cold is one of the biggest weenie myths.....sure it can lower temps more than it acutally would be, but it doesnt 'lock in' any cold air, you just have lower temps than you would if you didnt have any snow.

sorry to hear about the situation.

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Yea, Will really gave me a very extensive lesson on this right after the Dec 2008 event because I was curious, but I forget alot of the details.....the gist of it was that the inversion is such in this area that around 1000' is best.

I bet the top of Wachusett was 2F or so warmer than KORH.

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Snow falling off the trees...what a disaster.

Yesterday's forecast high for today imby was 28*...this moring it was 30*....those forecasts FTL.

34.7 and going to town.

You're in a banana belt today. Even Logan 10 minutes ago was 33. I'm at 30.4 ...was up to 31 earlier. Check your calibration.

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im gonna get flamed but addressing semantics...

snowpack 'locking in' the cold is one of the biggest weenie myths.....sure it can lower temps more than it acutally would be, but it doesnt 'lock in' any cold air, you just have lower temps than you would if you didnt have any snow.

sorry to hear about the situation.

It does keep daytime temps lower and radiation at night is explemified...but it also can help to force weak surface lows farther east with north drain...it won't help with a severe cutter and no blocking..but it often helps spawn weak 2ndaries..so it absolutley is a real thing

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But it might be acscribing too much credit to the WTNH management to suppose they would dump him for meteorological reasons. My bet is they wanted to dump his higher salary and get a new new fresh face because someone in market research told them it would improve their ratings.

Back when I was down in the Mid HV and we had an antenna and rotater...I'd shift it toward CT and get decent reception on WTNH and WFSB. I used to like Hilton on 3.

Well he wasn't a degreed met..and was probably the worst rip and reader GFS mos in television history

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In the respect, no, but only in that respect.....I said "extension" of the cp, which implies that there is some sort of difference.

You are in the distant interior cp....happy lol

That's fair...ASH isn't the best spot for Miller A's at all, but we usually clean up in late-season marginal events, which I like.

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But it might be acscribing too much credit to the WTNH management to suppose they would dump him for meteoroloical reasons. My bet is they wanted to dump his higher salary and get a new new fresh face because someone in market research told them it would improve their ratings.

Back when I was down in the Mid HV and we had an antenna and rotater...I'd shift it toward CT and get decent reception on WTNH and WFSB. I used to like Hilton on 3.

LOL>..Andy still has one

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It does keep daytime temps lower and radiation at night is explemified...but it also can help to force weak surface lows farther east with north drain...it won't help with a severe cutter and no blocking..but it often helps spawn weak 2ndaries..so it absolutley is a real thing

yes i agree with this, and that is especially so in new england which is a hotbed for triple point action

as far as the rest goes its just cooler than it would be, but it doesnt mean you cant crack freezing (ie lock-in cold) with a heavy snowpack.....look at Ray today.

as i said just semantics on the usage of the word 'lock....not a big deal :lol:

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Snow falling off the trees...what a disaster.

Yesterday's forecast high for today imby was 28*...this moring it was 30*....those forecasts FTL.

34.7 and going to town.

yup they busted on temps pretty good today.

lower elevation are warming.

Fit (300') 31 ORH (1000') 26 as of 1150. cp ..../interior cp FTL

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yes i agree with this, and that is especially so in new england which is a hotbed for triple point action

as far as the rest goes its just cooler than it would be, but it doesnt mean you cant crack freezing (ie lock-in cold) with a heavy snowpack.....look at Ray today.

as i said just semantics on the usage of the word 'lock....not a big deal :lol:

I don't think he's as warm as that reading..He's getting some reflection off snowpack I think

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