cpickett79 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This? http://www.erh.noaa....snow_depth.html wow mt. tolland rivals all of NE for snowdepth. i'm not far behind with 15-20 ...interesing areas several miles to the SW have a good deal less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 12Z GFS has is coldish. I'm looking specifically for my departure at 14Z Tuesday and at that time, it's snowing, possibly moderately, at BOS and temps remain cold. In fact, it goes over to snow/sleet by 18z and then to sleet or possibly rain but temps remain cold. Everything appears frozen in the interior. More and more likelihood of a delay. pita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 i would think this won't mean squat outside the berks or monads should that lead SW amplify more .....the artic high is slipping east of new england.....should the lead SW amplify more and track over SE mass....i see SE winds laughing at the deep snow back and retreating high....S winds scour out the cold faster than rex ryan would lick your bare foot in a open toe shoe i think a declining NAO would trump any track altering effects a snow pack would have....and i don't see a Polar high retreating to the E would be something that is favorable. all i'm saying is let's get some consistency with a cold N drain solution. Although you are entitled to your opinion all that is meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This? http://www.erh.noaa....snow_depth.html Actually no..that's the one I don't like..There's another one that uses blue and purple shadings. I know folks have the link on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 That settles it. I need to take a met course and read some more. Actually, GCC is offering a met course this spring. I think I may register for it. I think you might be reading the 0c line incorrectly. It goes to the upper right. Heavy heavy frozen for GC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 850's 0c trend a tad further N for hr 48........for tues am....but could be colder in low levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This? http://www.erh.noaa....snow_depth.html I think that's the crappy NWS one he's refering to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Actually no..that's the one I don't like..There's another one that uses blue and purple shadings. I know folks have the link on here http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/interactive/html/map.html?mode=pan&extents=us&zoom=¢er_x=++-67.27¢er_y=+++40.97&ql=station&var=ssm_depth&dy=2011&dm=1&dd=16&dh=16&snap=1&o11=1&o9=1&o12=1&o13=1&lbl=m&min_x=-78.016666666669&min_y=38.950000000001&max_x=-66.025000000002&max_y=47.941666666667&coord_x=++-67.27&coord_y=+++40.97&zbox_n=47.7918055555559&zbox_s=40.858231481482335&zbox_e=-66.31479861111312&zbox_w=-74.48911805555778&metric=0&bgvar=dem&shdvar=shading&width=600&height=450&nw=600&nh=450&h_o=0&font=0&js=1&uc=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 i would think this won't mean squat outside the berks or monads should that lead SW amplify more .....the artic high is slipping east of new england.....should the lead SW amplify more and track over SE mass....i see SE winds laughing at the deep snow back and retreating high....S winds scour out the cold faster than rex ryan would lick your bare foot in a open toe shoe i think a declining NAO would trump any track altering effects a snow pack would have....and i don't see a Polar high retreating to the E would be something that is favorable. all i'm saying is let's get some consistency with a cold N drain solution. You obviously have been sleeping through every one of these type events over the past 20 years. Forget the declining NAO. It means nothing. Remember 1993-94? NAO was positive. I remember 1960-61...same deal. We don't need NAO here in NE as much. It doesn't hurt (well it can see last year). This is a classic icy scene...doubt you (in Framingham) see much if any melted qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think that's the crappy NWS one he's refering to LOL..yeah this is the one I don't like..though it is accurate at least IMBY..I took some measurements yesterday and there's between 25-28 inches ..and over 33 in some drifted spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think you might be reading the 0c line incorrectly. It goes to the upper right. Heavy heavy frozen for GC. Tried to doctor that sounding in paint to show the 0 C line and indicate why it's probably a sleet and maybe snow mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 LOL..yeah this is the one I don't like..though it is accurate at least IMBY..I took some measurements yesterday and there's between 25-28 inches ..and over 33 in some drifted spots. http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/interactive/html/map.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 http://www.nohrsc.no...ont=0&js=1&uc=0 There we go..Saved..Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 850's 0c trend a tad further N for hr 48........for tues am....but could be colder in low levels? Huh? 850s 0 line does not reach the Pike until 18Z. Subfreezing in all of MA from BOS and W at that time at lower levels. So this is much colder to me than prior runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 http://www.nohrsc.nw...e/html/map.html Cha ching over MBY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 You obviously have been sleeping through every one of these type events over the past 20 years. Forget the declining NAO. It means nothing. Remember 1993-94? NAO was positive. I remember 1960-61...same deal. We don't need NAO here in NE as much. It doesn't hurt (well it can see last year). This is a classic icy scene...doubt you (in Framingham) see much if any melted qpf. well listen ...i'll take it.....but i'm not thinking this is a Classic icing scene just yet. one run of the 12z nam doesn't seal it for me. i would like to see the lead SW continue to be dampened out till we have a established trend.. scooter pointed to this as the driver for the cooler nam 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Huh? 850s 0 line does not reach the Pike until 18Z. Subfreezing in all of MA from BOS and W at that time at lower levels. So this is much colder to me than prior runs. Looks like 2-3'' of snow to advisory ice to .75-1'' of rain here...I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Huh? 850s 0 line does not reach the Pike until 18Z. Subfreezing in all of MA from BOS and W at that time at lower levels. So this is much colder to me than prior runs. not really difficult .....0c line at 12z tues on 6z gfs is S of long island....0c line at 12z tues on 12z gfs is over S coastal Ri.....and 0c temps are about 1-2 c warmer for most of region for that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Looks like 2-3'' of snow to advisory ice to .75-1'' of rain here...I'll take it. Most of us in interior SNE will not get above 32 while precip is falling...maybe Wed as the winds turn west for a time ahead of the CAA..but even that is questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 not really difficult .....0c line at 12z tues on 6z gfs is S of long island....0c line at 12z tues on 12z gfs is over S coastal Ri.....and 0c temps are about 1-2 c warmer for most of region for that time frame. I'll take you word for it...didn't really look at 6Z. But I think the take home message is that low levels are going to struggle to warm, especially in the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Most of us in interior SNE will not get above 32 while precip is falling...maybe Wed as the winds turn west for a time ahead of the CAA..but even that is questionable Just looking at the GFS verbatim...but garbage in, garbage out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 About 0.50" of snow QPF up here through 60hr before the changeover. The question remains...is it SN to mostly ZR or SN to quick ZR to RA. Around that point the sfc low is dropping over 1mb/hr so the northerly isallobaric component should pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Cha ching over MBY I am Not too far behind you on th RI border. I am still amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Aim not too far behind you on th RI border. I am still amazed. Yeah we had some compaction of the powder here..but this wasn't your typical fluff..this stuff has mucho staying power..It was like 26-28 the entire time and then fell into the upper teens during the last 3-4 hours of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 LOL..yeah this is the one I don't like..though it is accurate at least IMBY..I took some measurements yesterday and there's between 25-28 inches ..and over 33 in some drifted spots. I'm not a huge fan of that source either. But does look okay right now. I have about 19-20" IMBY. Wow, just looked at the other source: you FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishn Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 12 Z GFS says goodbye to Friday/Saturday threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 GFS is a no go with the Friday system. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OTS. Poses a bigger thread to Bermuda than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 GFS is a no go with the Friday system. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OTS. Poses a bigger thread to Bermuda than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 12 Z GFS says goodbye to Friday/Saturday threat. yes it does. models have trended that way....just when i thought we were going to enter a more every 3 days or so storm threat. lets see if we can get something in here sat-mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Oh, go wash your car. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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