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  On 11/15/2010 at 8:15 PM, wxwatcher91 said:

NAM came into line with the rest of the guidance at 12z for Wednesday, and now the 18z is WEST of the consensus LOL. I like how it went from a track over Cape Cod to a track through eastern Ohio in 24 hours.

Nothing like a 600 mile swing in guidance to assist the pro forecaster. :axe:

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  On 11/15/2010 at 8:15 PM, wxwatcher91 said:

NAM came into line with the rest of the guidance at 12z for Wednesday, and now the 18z is WEST of the consensus LOL. I like how it went from a track over Cape Cod to a track through eastern Ohio in 24 hours.

NAM usually has some disaster events...but just stick to the EE rule for determining if its right.

Occasionally it can score a coup all by itself though like Dec 5th last winter.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 8:51 PM, ORH_wxman said:

NAM usually has some disaster events...but just stick to the EE rule for determining if its right.

Occasionally it can score a coup all by itself though like Dec 5th last winter.

haha yeah, it was pretty clear anyway that the NAM was way out in right field on those couple of runs this time

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  On 11/15/2010 at 8:51 PM, ORH_wxman said:

NAM usually has some disaster events...but just stick to the EE rule for determining if its right.

Occasionally it can score a coup all by itself though like Dec 5th last winter.

How did it do with 12/9 last year when many forecasted the SW flow event to change to rain?

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  On 11/15/2010 at 9:48 PM, H2Otown_WX said:

How did it do with 12/9 last year when many forecasted the SW flow event to change to rain?

I think 12/9 was pretty well forecasted by most guidance. The snow hung ona little longer down there than thought, but on a larger scale it wasn't bad. That storm did change to rain for all of us eventually.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 9:52 PM, ORH_wxman said:

I think 12/9 was pretty well forecasted by most guidance. The snow hung ona little longer down there than thought, but on a larger scale it wasn't bad. That storm did change to rain for all of us eventually.

I thought it stayed all snow til almost the very end. Got like 4.5" in Danbury and 7" at my house.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:07 PM, H2Otown_WX said:

I thought it stayed all snow til almost the very end. Got like 4.5" in Danbury and 7" at my house.

From the METAR archive it looks like KBDL changed to rain at about 830am that morning. Which should be a good barometer since this event wasn't about elevation as much as it was the mid-level 0C line advancing northward.

I recall it changing to rain here sometime after 10am. It maybe rained for 3 hours or so until it shut off.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:12 PM, ORH_wxman said:

From the METAR archive it looks like KBDL changed to rain at about 830am that morning. Which should be a good barometer since this event wasn't about elevation as much as it was the mid-level 0C line advancing northward.

I recall it changing to rain here sometime after 10am. It maybe rained for 3 hours or so until it shut off.

I believe we remained snow the entire time. I wish I had my old signature so I could see how much snow we got.

It's kind of depressing to be talking about snow when I don't see any on our horizon.

43.3/42.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:24 PM, moneypitmike said:

I believe we remained snow the entire time. I wish I had my old signature so I could see how much snow we got.

It's kind of depressing to be talking about snow when I don't see any on our horizon.

43.3/42.

Everyone in SNE changed to rain eventually in that one. Even if it was a cold 34F rain. But we all got good snow (except right on the water where a CF developed) before that happened and then the cold front came through so we gained snow pack.

This was the analysis for that afternoon on Dec 9, 2009....you can see how we warmed plenty by then int he mid-levels so snow was no longer supported.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:36 PM, ORH_wxman said:

The overrunning stuff could get in here as a brief period of mix before we go mild latter Monday and Tuesday.

Certainly not anything to keep me up past bedtime to see new model runs!

Thanks for posting the stuff on the even last year. My memory's going in my old age. Was that our second event of substance that year? I recall a good snow on a Friday night which I think would have been prior to that.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:35 PM, ORH_wxman said:

Everyone in SNE changed to rain eventually in that one. Even if it was a cold 34F rain. But we all got good snow (except right on the water where a CF developed) before that happened and then the cold front came through so we gained snow pack.

This was the analysis for that afternoon on Dec 9, 2009....you can see how we warmed plenty by then int he mid-levels so snow was no longer supported.

No rain in Plymouth, NH. Just mixed with a little sleet. That was a decent storm for me. I think we ended up around 8"

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:48 PM, moneypitmike said:

Certainly not anything to keep me up past bedtime to see new model runs!

Thanks for posting the stuff on the even last year. My memory's going in my old age. Was that our second only event of substance that year? I recall a good snow on a Friday night which I think would have been prior to that.

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  On 11/15/2010 at 10:45 PM, CT Blizz said:

Wonder if the whole cold press is so strong the whole thing just ends up cold and frozen ending as drizzle

I'll bet you one day next week..either Tuesday or Wednesday (maybe Wednesday) BDL gets into the lower 60's...at least.

I'll bet you a shot...if I win you have to get me two shots at the g2g...lemon drips.

If you win I'll get you a beer

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