Redmorninglight Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 DP already achieved as frost covered my Jeep. 26F now and very calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Down to 10.2 here currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 FOK sitting at -1 already. http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.89275342420696&lon=-72.70408630371094&site=okx&smap=1&unit=0&lg=en&FcstType=text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Upton has a low of 14 for us again. Doubt that will happen. As of 11PM we are at 25 in Central Park. Wouldn't be surprised if the temp gets stuck around 21-22. Central Park's forecast low is 16F, not 14F. I'm sure some of the suburban areas in Queens will get into the lower teens.... Central Park is at 24/11, they probably won't make it but we'll see....They'll almost definitely get below 20F though. 18.4/13 here in Westchester, clear skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It's 24 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 KISP got down to 6F this morning; now down to 8F... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 14 here at 1 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ict1523 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Central Park's forecast low is 16F, not 14F. I'm sure some of the suburban areas in Queens will get into the lower teens.... Central Park is at 24/11, they probably won't make it but we'll see....They'll almost definitely get below 20F though. 18.4/13 here in Westchester, clear skies. Upton has 14 for Central Park. As of 2AM it is 24F. Don't think it'll get below 20F, much like last night where it hovered around 19, close to my guess of 20. Don't doubt areas in outer boroughs will be several degrees colder outside of LGA which is still at 28F....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Upton has 14 for Central Park. As of 2AM it is 24F. Don't think it'll get below 20F, much like last night where it hovered around 19, close to my guess of 20. Don't doubt areas in outer boroughs will be several degrees colder outside of LGA which is still at 28F....lol Yeah I just saw the forecast for 14F...that's clearly too cold. They did get down to 18F, not 19F, last night. Might be a couple degrees colder tonight. LGA is a joke....I'm sure some people in Queens will get into the lower teens...they radiate more like Westchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ict1523 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yeah I just saw the forecast for 14F...that's clearly too cold. They did get down to 18F, not 19F, last night. Might be a couple degrees colder tonight. LGA is a joke....I'm sure some people in Queens will get into the lower teens...they radiate more like Westchester. From about midnight on they warmed back up to 19 so officially 18 but no big deal either way. Forecast was for 14 or 16 last night as well. I find it pretty weird how on so many nights this year we just keep hitting a block and the temp just halts and stops dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 From about midnight on they warmed back up to 19 so officially 18 but no big deal either way. Forecast was for 14 or 16 last night as well. I find it pretty weird how on so many nights this year we just keep hitting a block and the temp just halts and stops dropping. The reason they're not cooling down much is because they have west winds, which downslope NYC badly. Central Park had W/NW winds all last night, which is why the low was only 18F. NYC needs a 350/360 wind direction to get cold at night; that's the only way it's possible for them to get below 0F. We'll see if freezing the Hudson helps this year as we look to be well on our way. Also, 850s are only around -12C or so tonight, that's not brutally cold. This is the type of night where rural locations drop to near 0F but it doesn't get that cold in the City. They'll start to drop some now because winds have slackened with the pressure gradient diminishing, but it'll be too late to get much colder than last night, even with the huge snowpack. It seems Central Park rarely drops more than 2F/hour or radiational cooling nights People comparing Central Park's minimums today to past winters are performing a useless activity, in my opinion...the fact that the suburbs have been rapidly developed since the 1950s has created a much more expansive urban heat island that impedes any penetration of the cold into NYC regardless of wind direction. Open farms and forests in LI and Westchester were quickly transformed into developments and roadways beginning in the late 1940s, and that started to cut off the colder minimums. Also, building materials have changed dramatically since the early 1900s when most structures were wood or brick, which don't have the same heat island qualities as a city built of pure steel and concrete. That's why Central Park was able to get so cold in the 1930s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 From about midnight on they warmed back up to 19 so officially 18 but no big deal either way. Forecast was for 14 or 16 last night as well. I find it pretty weird how on so many nights this year we just keep hitting a block and the temp just halts and stops dropping. Even now that they're reporting clear skies and calm winds, Central Park is still stuck at 24F. How is it possible not to see any cooling overnight with a huge snowpack, light winds, and fair conditions? 50 miles to the northeast, Danbury CT (KDXR) is at -4F. Poughkeepsie (KPOU), 80 miles to the north, is at -3F. Quite a contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 The buildings trap heat during the day and reradiate at night. Also every building has their heater on, and that heat escapes from the buildings. The combination of that causes the profound "urban heat island" effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Low was 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdt Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Low was 5F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 4.1 this morning in Muttontown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 got down to 9.5° this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 6.7 here this morning 5 yesterday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I hit 13F again this morning, but I would be shocked if we didn't fall into the single digits on Monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Low Temperatures Saturday Morning January 15, 2011: Danbury: -5 Westhampton: -5 Upton: +3.7 Shirley, L.I.: +5 Islip: +6 White Plains: +8 Farmingdale: +8 Bridgeport: +8 Newark: +18 JFK: +21 Central Park: +23 LaGuardia: +25 Danbury and Westhampton both bottomed out at -4 F the previous morning (1/14/11) Thanks to all who voiced concern about the car accident I was involved in. This is the first I heard about it Im really sorry William, feel free to PM me. I hope you're doing much better now and havent suffered from any residual effects (like whiplash.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Dang J, I just saw this. I'm glad there were no injuries. I hope you feel well; that is a traumatic event. Ed Me too-- I just scanned through the thread when I found out what happened I hope youre better now William! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Wow William,Glad to hear your OK.I had a rough night at work last night.A woman jumped onto the tracks and I nearly hit her with my train.Thank God I didntShe was trying to retrieve her cellphone which had fallen onto the tracks..Then on the return trip,a woman went into a diabetic coma in right behind the motormans cab.I dont know how she is.My probation ended this past Tuesday.It was 17 at my house last night but when I was walking to the subway at 11PM,there was a biting wind so I didnt expect the temps to bottom out.Amazingly we have yet to have any real Arctic air in the CONUS.It has been in Europe much of the winter. There was an 87 year old man who died from hypothermia the other night on long island. The snow does look wonderful, but we have to remember to dress appropriately (the news reports said he wasnt wearing appropriate clothing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Went from a low of 4 here this morning to snow melting on my deck (southward facing side of house) at 10:15am..quiet a rebound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Low was 14.7F here in Dobbs Ferry....currently 32.3F and overcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Some flurries drifting down right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 The reason they're not cooling down much is because they have west winds, which downslope NYC badly. Central Park had W/NW winds all last night, which is why the low was only 18F. NYC needs a 350/360 wind direction to get cold at night; that's the only way it's possible for them to get below 0F. We'll see if freezing the Hudson helps this year as we look to be well on our way. Also, 850s are only around -12C or so tonight, that's not brutally cold. This is the type of night where rural locations drop to near 0F but it doesn't get that cold in the City. They'll start to drop some now because winds have slackened with the pressure gradient diminishing, but it'll be too late to get much colder than last night, even with the huge snowpack. It seems Central Park rarely drops more than 2F/hour or radiational cooling nights People comparing Central Park's minimums today to past winters are performing a useless activity, in my opinion...the fact that the suburbs have been rapidly developed since the 1950s has created a much more expansive urban heat island that impedes any penetration of the cold into NYC regardless of wind direction. Open farms and forests in LI and Westchester were quickly transformed into developments and roadways beginning in the late 1940s, and that started to cut off the colder minimums. Also, building materials have changed dramatically since the early 1900s when most structures were wood or brick, which don't have the same heat island qualities as a city built of pure steel and concrete. That's why Central Park was able to get so cold in the 1930s. The cold in central park in the 30s was because it was an extreme cold outbreak. While urban expansion does increase the heat island effect, it has been a very very long time since Manhattan experienced radiational cooling. February 9, 1934 had absolutely nothing to do with radiational cooling. Sorry Nate, but you are wrong about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 From February 9, 1934. That 18z temperature at +3 wasn't helped by better radiation in those days. These temperatures are from the battery on the water in lower Manhattan, which explains the -14.3 vs the -15 at the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 The cold in central park in the 30s was because it was an extreme cold outbreak. While urban expansion does increase the heat island effect, it has been a very very long time since Manhattan experienced radiational cooling. February 9, 1934 had absolutely nothing to do with radiational cooling. Sorry Nate, but you are wrong about this. Either way, adding millions of people, cars, and tons of massive concrete buildings is not going to help NYC's case at night. Any airmass, no matter how cold, is going to be eased by the UHI in NYC....no way around that. It takes a truly anomalous event to get the city below freezing these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Either way, adding millions of people, cars, and tons of massive concrete buildings is not going to help NYC's case at night. Any airmass, no matter how cold, is going to be eased by the UHI in NYC....no way around that. It takes a truly anomalous event to get the city below freezing these days. Actually when we see strong CAA in the area, the city's temps are fairly close to the suburbs. The UHI does play a role but what also plays a major role is the lack of a major arctic air mass aimed toward our region. Most of that arctic air has been on the other side of the globe. Probably 2004 was the last time we see a strong arctic air mass in the area. UHI will play a major role in the upcoming cold morning on Monday, that's just pure radiational cooling at work and the city doesn't do well in those situations. I wouldn't be surprised to see the city get down to 18 while just a few miles away in the burbs, there are lower single digit readings, even zero degree readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 -2 this morning in Old Lyme CT (CTZ12) about two miles inland from Long Island Sound in New London County CT. Coldest low since 1/17/09's -10. After an afternoon high of 32, temps are now rising into the mid-30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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