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GL/MW/OV January 2011 Disco Part II


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Nearing a foot below normal here i do believe.

Taking this into consideration i don't see any improvements with that either and the hole will probably grow deeper unless the lake can send some help.

Thus why as well everything is shifting south and east again as phase 7-8 is common with eastcoast storms/blocking. So anyone living up this way better not get any false hopes of models coming back our way with this next system. Chances are very slim that happens. Was hoping we could sneak something in before the return of the fail pattern but ala todays system etc is taking that out out of the picture. Oh well. Congrats OV and eastcoast.

Are you on the Detroit's office back loaded winter? At least it will only be early Feb when maybe things can flip... I haven't read around the board in a couple weeks so I don't know what the long range gossip is.. Hoping Donny Baseball is not talking congrats east coast and blocking to stay around a good chunk of next month also. You guys did score big in Feb though so maybe a repeat? Seems it would be a good bet seeing we're kinna in the same **** house pattern for big storms as last winter it seems.

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Are you on the Detroit's office back loaded winter? At least it will only be early Feb when maybe things can flip... I haven't read around the board in a couple weeks so I don't know what the long range gossip is.. Hoping Donny Baseball is not talking congrats east coast and blocking to stay around a good chunk of next month also. You guys did score big in Feb though so maybe a repeat? Seems it would be a good bet seeing we're kinna in the same **** house pattern for big storms as last winter it seems.

I am probably being paid back for last winter ( and probably the few before that too ) which really was not bad all things considered. Possibly one of the very few spots this far north that can say that. The only real sucky month was January. The Lake saved Dec from a epic failure. Feb was huge ofcourse ( snowiest Feb ever here ) and then the torch got turned on in March and that was it. Gonna be hard to top last Feb here. Perhaps March as the last couple of Marches have been historic snowless Marches.

Hard to say if this winter can be turned around. Every time i think there is a chance of that happening something new pops and unfortunately keeps giving us the same results. This go around it is the tropical forcing/MJO. So yeah i have my doubts. Climo says it is not happening. Not here IMBY anyways. Again i think March may offer the best potential here. That is just a guess mainly based on how bad the past couple of Marches have been with winter weather and how epic last Feb was here. Not saying much but not really much else to say.

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Thanks much, Harry. I don't have any gut feeling at this time what the 2nd half of winter holds.. If it can stay in this cool/cold pattern through March we should be able to nickle and dime our way to near avg one would think.. I have 33 inches to go for avg. That might be asking for a lot if Jan goes out quiet.

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Thanks much, Harry. I don't have any gut feeling at this time what the 2nd half of winter holds.. If it can stay in this cool/cold pattern through March we should be able to nickle and dime our way to near avg one would think.. I have 33 inches to go for avg. That might be asking for a lot if Jan goes out quiet.

NP. Have 42.5" to go here to achieve climo for the winter. Typically the lake stuff shuts down come Feb and so i know it is gonna be hard to reach that here unless Feb or March is Epic. BTW.. Have you managed to sneak in a 6+ event yet? Still notta here on that front.

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NP. Have 42.5" to go here to achieve climo for the winter. Typically the lake stuff shuts down come Feb and so i know it is gonna be hard to reach that here unless Feb or March is Epic. BTW.. Have you managed to sneak in a 6+ event yet? Still notta here on that front.

I got 5" yesterday.. Would of had 6+ if the heavy bands made it through here but they mostly skirted me or fell apart.. I'm pleased with it but it was almost another total pixie dust storm. Couldn't get much for dendrites going.. I've been in that pixie rut going back to all of last winter..

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I got 5" yesterday.. Would of had 6+ if the heavy bands made it through here but they mostly skirted me or fell apart.. I'm pleased with it but it was almost another total pixie dust storm. Couldn't get much for dendrites going.. I've been in that pixie rut going back to all of last winter..

Not bad. I would have taken that. :lol: But 5" is what i am at as well for largest storm here this winter so far. Problem here has been just a lack of moisture. Shows up well on the precip departure maps.

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The medium range looks like classic middle of winter weather with a train of Pacific occlusions riding over the East Pacific ridge and down through the plains/Great Lakes as NW flow wave disturbances/clippers. Nothing to latch on to this far out, but these little events can add up--and a few can yield surprises. Better than nothing I guess.

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The medium range looks like classic middle of winter weather with a train of Pacific occlusions riding over the East Pacific ridge and down through the plains/Great Lakes as NW flow wave disturbances/clippers. Nothing to latch on to this far out, but these little events can add up--and a few can yield surprises. Better than nothing I guess.

i for one wouldn't mind getting back into this pattern.

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The winter here has been great so far. Picked up 10" from the super clipper in early Dec. Had several light to moderate events that has us already above 30". Our seasonal average is around 35" I believe, so with some time left we could end up above average for the season. The only part of the winter I didn't like was the period between xmas and mid Jan. It was very quiet during that time, but that's to be expected after a stormy month.

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QFT. Amazing really that a lot of people are above normal to date (mainly west and south of MI, not counting MKE), yet act like it's been a dismal winter or they've been screwed over. There needs to be a climo refresher...stat. :axe:

AMEN!

I can understand the frustration or want for a major 10"+ snowstorm...but these dismal portrayals of winter are completely false here. For DTW, the snowfall is just around normal, but the snowcover days are ABOVE normal and the temperature departure is BELOW normal. It may not be as exciting as getting an 18-inch storm, but to me, that is WINTER.

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Up here we are barely normal, its just been so meh getting there.

Again, in my opinion, 1 warning and 1 advisory criteria snowstorm (and our usual plethora of nickel/dime)is not so meh. Could be better of course, but could be a LOT worse. And definitely what you like is what you like. Just throwin the climo in there. From THAT standpoint, we havent really suffered at all in DTW. Im just saying my opinion of things so far, but really, its dangerous to give an opinion halfway through winter, when you have no idea how good or bad the 2nd half of winter will be.

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Lost a bit more snow today than I thought we would, but we are seeing a glacier forming the likes of which its been a while since ive seen. Basically, we had 6" on the ground 2 days ago, with a 0.5" water content. The depth sunk to 3" today, but its water content is now actually 0.6" (some rain today), so literally, Im expecting to walk on top of the snow tomorrow.

Today was the 34th day this winter with 1"+ snow on the ground, and with the snowpack now turning into a literal glacier there is no end in sight. Normal for an entire winter is about 50 days, top 20 territory is over 65 days and top 10 territory is over 75 days. That is my new goal for this winter...snowfall looks like it will come nowhere near 04-05, 07-08, or 08-09, but if things can go well, it may "whiter" than any of those winters. LAST thing i expected in a La Nina.

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Again, in my opinion, 1 warning and 1 advisory criteria snowstorm (and our usual plethora of nickel/dime)is not so meh. Could be better of course, but could be a LOT worse. And definitely what you like is what you like. Just throwin the climo in there. From THAT standpoint, we havent really suffered at all in DTW. Im just saying my opinion of things so far, but really, its dangerous to give an opinion halfway through winter, when you have no idea how good or bad the 2nd half of winter will be.

Up to this point, it's been a "wintry" winter. The only time I didn't have at least a coating of snow on the ground was right after the brief but intense thaw around New Years. Other than that, there hasn't even been any thaws so far. I'm pleased with this winter up to this point.

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Up to this point, it's been a "wintry" winter. The only time I didn't have at least a coating of snow on the ground was right after the brief but intense thaw around New Years. Other than that, there hasn't even been any thaws so far. I'm pleased with this winter up to this point.

Yeah. Our only bare period was Jan 1-4, and then a few days the first week of December (I think 3 days). Its really about what you like. If you like snow in the air, on the ground, and cold temps...this winter has been excellent. If you are all about constant storminess, this winter...not so much.

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Yeah. Our only bare period was Jan 1-4, and then a few days the first week of December (I think 3 days). Its really about what you like. If you like snow in the air, on the ground, and cold temps...this winter has been excellent. If you are all about constant storminess, this winter...not so much.

This has been your typical SEMI winter except temps might be below average. I think people are so bitter around here because we NEVER EVER get a monster snowstorm. Say totals that range from 12-20 inches and NOT 4-8 inches.

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[/b]This has been your typical SEMI winter except temps might be below average. I think people are so bitter around here because we NEVER EVER get a monster snowstorm. Say totals that range from 12-20 inches and NOT 4-8 inches.

Whats funny is that its actually seen more snowcover than normal. Normal for an entire season, at DTW anyway, is about 50 days. We are already at 35 days and not quite halfway through winter. I say its funny, because going into La Nina its the LAST, and I mean LAST thing I expected. I was expecting more than anything a subpar winter for snowcover due to frequent thaws, but a lot of storminess, similar to (but not as extreme as) 2007-08.

In the interim, the snowpack we have, find a hill and go sledding (the big sled hills, from both blowing snow and frequent sledding, may have bare tops). You will FLLLYYY on this glacier lol.

I suspect many of the same people would be killing for our 4-8 and occasional 8-12" snowstorm when the east goes through one of their snow droughts. If theres one thing winter is in this region, its DEPENDABLE.

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