2010 Global Temps

[iceicebyebye]

I think it'll continue to fall, albeit at a more gradual rate, in the next few months. The satellites' lag mean that what Channel 5 is showing now is where global temperatures were 4-5 months ago. The La Niña has also begun another spell of intense cooling lately, so that should be reflected by April/May.

really impressive falling trend on channel 5 over the past few weeks. to level set and lest we forget, YTD 324 of 326 daily readings have been above average. the last 2 have been below normal, with good odds of that new trend continuing, at least in the very short term.

[iceicebyebye]

You supplied the straw!!!! But whatever, it's hypothetical anyway. When a hypothesis is unfalsifiable (which is how it was intentionally or inadvertantly intended) it resemble belief. Tell me of a test that could falsify the AGW hypothesis????

tenets and theory relative to AGW seem to have cleared the rather high bar of skepticism of most engaged in climate and earth sciences. the burden of "falsification" as you call it is on the exceedingly small and shrinking set of contrarians. and there is certainly a vested and vocal industry dedicated to such work.

you certainly have the right to protest and wave your hands to and fro if the real time conditions relative to climate change do not align with your established paradigm.

tactically, if hansen's projections that seem to be a hot topic here, fall under his scenario C by the end of this decade, it would be reasonable to expect him to provide explanations or rationale. but this would still not disprove the tenets of AGW, and the eventual long term outcomes resulting from BAU emissions path, excluding the influence of a major geologic event.

[Tropopause_Fold]

tenets and theory relative to AGW seem to have cleared the rather high bar of skepticism of most engaged in climate and earth sciences. the burden of "falsification" as you call it is on the exceedingly small and shrinking set of contrarians. and there is certainly a vested and vocal industry dedicated to such work.

you certainly have the right to protest and wave your hands to and fro if the real time conditions relative to climate change do not align with your established paradigm.

tactically, if hansen's projections that seem to be a hot topic here, fall under his scenario C by the end of this decade, it would be reasonable to expect him to provide explanations or rationale. but this would still not disprove the tenets of AGW, and the eventual long term outcomes resulting from BAU emissions path, excluding the influence of a major geologic event.

[roardog]

I guarantee you that is ytterbium. Who else would have a name specifically for the climate change forum?

[BethesdaWX]

I guarantee you that is ytterbium. Who else would have a name specifically for the climate change forum?

What else is new? Of Course its Yitterbium

[skierinvermont]

kind of silly to hide your identity.. aside from a few kooks we are all friendly people here

[LakeEffectKing]

kind of silly to hide your identity.. aside from a few kooks we are all friendly people here

I think it is Steve A.....he had a "cheers" at the end of one of his posts....something he did a few times over at the other board.

[BethesdaWX]

I think it is Steve A.....he had a "cheers" at the end of one of his posts....something he did a few times over at the other board.

Perhaps someone has a 2nd account? The Username gives me the notion that its Yitterbium...either that, or its Jim Hansen.

[salbers]

Is this what you meant by a "cheers" type of poster ? I'm now on as 'salbers', though I'm attempting to contact the Admins via email about getting back to 'scalbers'. Is there a way I can PM an admin?

[BethesdaWX]

Is this what you meant by a "cheers" type of poster ? I'm now on as 'salbers', though I'm attempting to contact the Admins via email about getting back to 'scalbers'. Is there a way I can PM an admin?

Yes there is a way. Click in an admins display name, and on the menu below the name, you'll see "Send me a message". Click that, and you're on.

[The_Global_Warmer]

Perhaps someone has a 2nd account? The Username gives me the notion that its Yitterbium...either that, or its Jim Hansen.

Maybe you should worry about not stealing some guys photos on the internet of body building and posting it here as yourself which is a form of identity fraud. Sticking to to the thread title would be more productive. I have never seen anyone post a picture on a climate change thread on a weather board of them lifting weights and claiming to be the most muscular 18 yr old homo-sapian of all time.

I have no problems with light light heartedness in discussion threads but you constantly troll.

[BethesdaWX]

Maybe you should worry about not stealing some guys photos on the internet of body building and posting it here as yourself which is a form of identity fraud. Sticking to to the thread title would be more productive. I have never seen anyone post a picture on a climate change thread on a weather board of them lifting weights and claiming to be the most muscular 18 yr old homo-sapian of all time.

I have no problems with light light heartedness in discussion threads but you constantly troll.

Maybe you should worry about getting your facts straight, and Taking some anti-anxiety drugs. If you are going to wrongly accuse me of stealing photos, you need to back yourself up, instead of opening your mouth for publicity.

Not to mention your freaking out with horror everytime Arctic Sea Ice drops for a few days.

Relax.

[Jesse]

Any word on Global temps?

[Jesse]

Nothing eh? I lost my link to the UAH site. Last I heard they were dropping pretty precipitously but that was over a week ago. Perhaps the drop on the satellites has slowed or stopped since then.

[BethesdaWX]

Global temps halting the drop temorarily...following a perfect pattern.....1 step up....7 steps down

Heres the UAH website

http://www.uah.edu/

Heres a site to monitor global temps

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps

[LakeEffectKing]

We continue to cool:

UAH:

YR MON GLOBE NH SH TROPICS

2010 1 0.648 0.860 0.436 0.681

2010 2 0.603 0.720 0.486 0.791

2010 3 0.653 0.850 0.455 0.726

2010 4 0.501 0.799 0.203 0.633

2010 5 0.534 0.775 0.292 0.708

2010 6 0.436 0.550 0.323 0.476

2010 7 0.489 0.635 0.342 0.420

2010 8 0.511 0.674 0.347 0.364

2010 9 0.603 0.555 0.650 0.285

2010 10 0.426 0.370 0.482 0.156

2010 11 0.381 0.513 0.249 -0.071

[skierinvermont]

We continue to cool:

UAH:

YR MON GLOBE NH SH TROPICS

2010 1 0.648 0.860 0.436 0.681

2010 2 0.603 0.720 0.486 0.791

2010 3 0.653 0.850 0.455 0.726

2010 4 0.501 0.799 0.203 0.633

2010 5 0.534 0.775 0.292 0.708

2010 6 0.436 0.550 0.323 0.476

2010 7 0.489 0.635 0.342 0.420

2010 8 0.511 0.674 0.347 0.364

2010 9 0.603 0.555 0.650 0.285

2010 10 0.426 0.370 0.482 0.156

2010 11 0.381 0.513 0.249 -0.071

Right about what I was expecting, makes sense since UAH runs warmer than the CH. 5 raw anomalies and CH 5 started off the month record warm before a massive drop. I'd guess around .15 for December.

[iceicebyebye]

We continue to cool:

UAH:

YR MON GLOBE NH SH TROPICS

2010 1 0.648 0.860 0.436 0.681

2010 2 0.603 0.720 0.486 0.791

2010 3 0.653 0.850 0.455 0.726

2010 4 0.501 0.799 0.203 0.633

2010 5 0.534 0.775 0.292 0.708

2010 6 0.436 0.550 0.323 0.476

2010 7 0.489 0.635 0.342 0.420

2010 8 0.511 0.674 0.347 0.364

2010 9 0.603 0.555 0.650 0.285

2010 10 0.426 0.370 0.482 0.156

2010 11 0.381 0.513 0.249 -0.071

for perspective, this is the 3rd highest Nov anomaly for UAH (since 79). we do indeed continue to cool, month over month, but from the lens several other posters have put on this here and elsewhere you would have thought we were in a deep freeze!

so really another much warmer than average Nov on UAH, in one of the warmest years on record.

[LakeEffectKing]

Right about what I was expecting, makes sense since UAH runs warmer than the CH. 5 raw anomalies and CH 5 started off the month record warm before a massive drop. I'd guess around .15 for December.

Yeah, I was expecting a tenth or two drop for Nov. too. Total stab in the dark, but I'm thinking Dec. comes in around .25 + .05.

[LakeEffectKing]

for perspective, this is the 3rd highest Nov anomaly for UAH (since 79). we do indeed continue to cool, month over month, but from the lens several other posters have put on this here and elsewhere you would have thought we were in a deep freeze!

so really another much warmer than average Nov on UAH, in one of the warmest years on record.

No, we are just happy for mankind that all our peril is put off......if for even just 1 more month....we know we are past the tipping point...many have told us so, so just live the happiest we can until we all perish. It's coming, but we bought ourselves another month! Rejoice!

[ORH_wxman]

No, we are just happy for mankind that all our peril is put off......if for even just 1 more month....we know we are past the tipping point...many have told us so, so just live the happiest we can until we all perish. It's coming, but we bought ourselves another month! Rejoice!

Whew....I was getting worried.

[tacoman25]

for perspective, this is the 3rd highest Nov anomaly for UAH (since 79). we do indeed continue to cool, month over month, but from the lens several other posters have put on this here and elsewhere you would have thought we were in a deep freeze!

so really another much warmer than average Nov on UAH, in one of the warmest years on record.

Coming after one of the strongest El Ninos on record. With AGW's assigned forcing (.2C/decade, it's been 12 years since 1998), we should have had no problem making the warmest year on record this year.

[tacoman25]

Yeah, I was expecting a tenth or two drop for Nov. too. Total stab in the dark, but I'm thinking Dec. comes in around .25 + .05.

The Nina reached mod/strong status in September...I think we will see the really big drop in JFM.

[BethesdaWX]

Coming after one of the strongest El Ninos on record. With AGW's assigned forcing (.2C/decade, it's been 12 years since 1998), we should have had no problem making the warmest year on record this year.

We also had the Huge warm AMO, and we won't be able to do it. Hilariious.

Also amazing that there is no trend in Global Temps from 1997 until now.. thats 14 years. With the Solar cycle/2 super Ninos/Nino dominance, & +AMO/+PDO... we can't warm at all.....pathetic.

[skierinvermont]

We also had the Huge warm AMO, and we won't be able to do it. Hilariious.

Also amazing that there is no trend in Global Temps from 1997 until now.. thats 14 years. With the Solar cycle/2 super Ninos/Nino dominance, & +AMO/+PDO... we can't warm at all.....pathetic.

The PDO has averaged negative since 1998, and especially since 2007. There has not been Nino dominance... a trend line of best fit for the ONI has zero slope over the last 12 years. And solar has been low the last 5 years.

[BethesdaWX]

The PDO has averaged negative since 1998, and especially since 2007. There has not been Nino dominance... a trend line of best fit for the ONI has zero slope over the last 12 years. And solar has been low the last 5 years.

Where on earth do you get your Data?????

Look at this insane El NIno dominance

The PDO did NOT go cold in 1998. Surface patterns during the La Nina Phase in 1998-2001 would push the anoms very low (PDO & global) anyway due to imbalance recovery. It was a "masked" cold anom, and has been warm for awhile. The PDO went cold in 2007..... and look what has happened to the ICE since then.....

PDO/AMO Match very well

Solar has a 5-8 year lag, so we should begin to see the effects right about now......we are.........Global anoms headed down with the La Nina, and may never crack 0.4C again

LOLZ!

[nzucker]

The PDO has averaged negative since 1998, and especially since 2007. There has not been Nino dominance... a trend line of best fit for the ONI has zero slope over the last 12 years. And solar has been low the last 5 years.

ONI did average positive in the 2000s, not as much as the 1990s though. Definitely agree there was somewhat of a Niño dominance although perhaps not as exaggerated as what Bethesda says.

[nzucker]

Right about what I was expecting, makes sense since UAH runs warmer than the CH. 5 raw anomalies and CH 5 started off the month record warm before a massive drop. I'd guess around .15 for December.

A bit warmer than I was thinking....not much change from last month despite Channel 5 appearing cooler. Interesting that the final number was basically a carbon copy of October. We'll see what RSS says.

[skierinvermont]

A bit warmer than I was thinking....not much change from last month despite Channel 5 appearing cooler. Interesting that the final number was basically a carbon copy of October. We'll see what RSS says.

Ch 5 only averaged ~.05C cooler than in October.. about the same as the drop in UAH.

[skierinvermont]

ONI did average positive in the 2000s, not as much as the 1990s though. Definitely agree there was somewhat of a Niño dominance although perhaps not as exaggerated as what Bethesda says.

Right.. which actually makes the ONI trend neutral or negative. If we are talking about temperature trends we should be comparing to ONI trends. Apples to apples. The ONI trend 1998-2010 was flat.