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January 11-12 Snowstorm Disco


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LOL I'm just glad we got the NAM out of the way so to speak. Now watch the GFS move it to Buffalo.

The NAM clown graphics 1000-850 keep critical thicknesses here cold enough through about 7-8am, then it warms but now just barely. If it's still in error and adjusts 10 miles east thats all done. YET knowing this track I still suspect we get some warm air intrusion and I'm not yet excited pending the rest of the data suite.

This thing will go to town later, so I'd still watch out for some crazy trends. It's possible it could still go near the Canal, but it was nice to see the NAM go east a bit.

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As they say...long time (observer - since eastern wx) first time (poster)...Heckuva time for me to jump in I know.

Love reading the model breakdowns, and the polite banter! You guys rock.

Here's hoping we in KPWM territory get some model love. GYX is rather conservative and isn't pulling any triggers.

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I must remember your play by play and pics during the Jan 2005 blizzard. I think you got 3 feet right? Chuck em!

Most all of this today didn't matter to you guys...difference was 15" vs 18", 18" vs 21"... but for me and for Phil and people out on the fringe w NW it did matter. The NAM is a predictable (apparently) model at 5h where it continues to overdevelop these microcenters.

If this does play out tonight and it was in error again NCEP needs to figure out why because in these instances it was very obvious but it's likely part of the reason it's not been a great model at all levels. Everyone is telling me this is a different situation/pattern/blocking and the model did the same damned thing. So, unless it spins up the microcenter at 5h again later tonight at 6z or other models have it....NAM 5h fail.

How does it look temp wise here?

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good to have you!

As they say...long time (observer - since eastern wx) first time (poster)...Heckuva time for me to jump in I know.

Love reading the model breakdowns, and the polite banter! You guys rock.

Here's hoping we in KPWM territory get some model love. GYX is rather conservative and isn't pulling any triggers.

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This thing will go to town later, so I'd still watch out for some crazy trends. It's possible it could still go near the Canal, but it was nice to see the NAM go east a bit.

Scott 100% agree and if it does someone will say I was wrong about it...but all along I've posted 5h maps not surface or 700 or anything else.

Whatever it is doing at 5h...convective feedback or some other feedback process it's creating intense micro centers above strong convective type echoes.

The old NAM could turn out to be right who the heck knows on the track. But at 5h I don't think it'll recover those vortmax's that seemed out of place, and without those QPF will be more in line with all the other models. That was the part I think some weren't getting today, it had a lot more to do with just the amount of QPF than the surface track, but anyway, let's see if it was right (old runs ) first.

Just like the other two systems it was too far NW on, it's developing intense, intense vorticity maximums right above/in association with intense uvv's.

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As they say...long time (observer - since eastern wx) first time (poster)...Heckuva time for me to jump in I know.

Love reading the model breakdowns, and the polite banter! You guys rock.

Here's hoping we in KPWM territory get some model love. GYX is rather conservative and isn't pulling any triggers.

Howdy, neighbor. We're having fun tomorrow.

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As they say...long time (observer - since eastern wx) first time (poster)...Heckuva time for me to jump in I know.

Love reading the model breakdowns, and the polite banter! You guys rock.

Here's hoping we in KPWM territory get some model love. GYX is rather conservative and isn't pulling any triggers.

Welcome to the board! There seem to be a handful of us in an around Portland and the midcoast.

Looks like 8-14 is a good bet for us here now.

I'm out. Hopefully getting up around 4AM.thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

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As they say...long time (observer - since eastern wx) first time (poster)...Heckuva time for me to jump in I know.

Love reading the model breakdowns, and the polite banter! You guys rock.

Here's hoping we in KPWM territory get some model love. GYX is rather conservative and isn't pulling any triggers.

Greetings

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Yea all of southeastern CT is in the 2.0 to 2.5 QPF wow.....you can call this an all nighter....i would love to see some thundersnow!

I m happy just to be close enough to the bullseye to get hit hard.:thumbsup: looking at the radar its going to be one hell of a night.

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GYX's update, AWT........

NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING/...

UPDATE...

STORM JUST BEGINNING TO TAKE SHAPE (1012MB) OFF THE COAST EAST OF

DELAWARE AT THIS HOUR. THE BEST SURFACE PRESSURE FALLS REMAIN TO

THE NORTH OF THE SYSTEM ALONG THE NEARSHORE BUOYS OF THE NJ SHORE.

EXPECT ENHANCED CLOUD TOPS AND CONVECTION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT

FEW HOURS IN THIS AREA AS RAPID CYCLOGENESIS OCCURS OVERNIGHT.

WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES APPEAR TO BE ON TRACK. CURRENTLY WATCHING

LOCAL TRENDS AND NEW 00Z MODEL SUITE BEFORE MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS

TO THE FORECAST. IF MODEL TRENDS CONTINUE TO NUDGE NORTHWARD WITH

THE STORM...PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN FOOTHILLS OF MAINE AND NORTH-

CENTRAL NH MAY NEED TO BE UPGRADED FROM AN ADVISORY TO A MINIMAL WARNING.

OTHERWISE..WILL NEED TO TWEAK TEMPS AND DEW POINTS DOWNWARDS BASED

ON CURRENT TRENDS.

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I m happy just to be close enough to the bullseye to get hit hard.:thumbsup: looking at the radar its going to be one hell of a night.

Yes this is going to be one hell of a night...i think we could most deff. see some thundersnow...this is going to be nuts come after midnight!

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