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The Pattern beyond Jan 12


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LP did jump a couple hundred miles se from 12z, however qpf increased at 18z, in the end it either cuts well west without much damage or climo will win and it goes over the canal inland adds while the coastal plain takes a minor to moderate hit especially the further east you are.

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Wow, euro weeklies completely flipped the script.

They have the +PNA pattern on week 2, but evolve ridging into AK and western Canada on week 3, while having a +nao. This drives some cold air right into the US. Week 4 also has a +NAO but week + height anomalies over nrn Canada. It basically keeps most of the US below normal. Week 4 looks kind of ugly in the Bering Sea, but verbatim the weeklies are cold. They abandoned the -nao idea too.

I think we are due for some +NAO bouts before we tank again in March; hopefully we get some help out west to coincide with the more +NAO.

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LP did jump a couple hundred miles se from 12z, however qpf increased at 18z, in the end it either cuts well west without much damage or climo will win and it goes over the canal inland adds while the coastal plain takes a minor to moderate hit especially the further east you are.

I agree, Joe.

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LP did jump a couple hundred miles se from 12z, however qpf increased at 18z, in the end it either cuts well west without much damage or climo will win and it goes over the canal inland adds while the coastal plain takes a minor to moderate hit especially the further east you are.

I checked out the GFS and then read all the eeyoring here. I considered it a win ... big shift to the east. Another one of those at 00z and we're talking big snows. I'm quite pleased.

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Wow, euro weeklies completely flipped the script.

They have the +PNA pattern on week 2, but evolve ridging into AK and western Canada on week 3, while having a +nao. This drives some cold air right into the US. Week 4 also has a +NAO but week + height anomalies over nrn Canada. It basically keeps most of the US below normal. Week 4 looks kind of ugly in the Bering Sea, but verbatim the weeklies are cold. They abandoned the -nao idea too.

It seems like Mother Nature will flip the indices around in any combination that keeps the US cold..LOL..I love it

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Actually, if you have a good arctic high in place at the lead in, you can getter a better front end dump by having the mid levels cut waaaaay west.....as opposed to up the Hudson or something.

Dec 16, 2007 is a good example.....the primary push of the warm tongue was west of us, into NYS beccause it was so far west and we were more heavily influenced by the impressive +pp to the N of ME.

This is why we had that classic obs map of Hyannis pounding snow, while Albany sleeted and rained.

need that great high pressure in place and in the sweet spot

dec 16 was an epic setup

tremendous WAA over incredible CAD

i recall it was -25C hours before on the morning that storm began here with buckets of gulf moisture on a rapidly bombing 980 low....:scooter:

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need that great high pressure in place and in the sweet spot

dec 16 was an epic setup

tremendous WAA over incredible CAD

i recall it was -25C hours before on the morning that storm began here with buckets of gulf moisture on a rapidly bombing 980 low....:scooter:

You have a real Dec 16 fetish. lol

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How about Ninas with an active STJ? This Nina is creating new assumptions.

Jerry I have the radarscope app for iPad, amazing, I digress, anyway it gives the warnings for the country. I have seen flash flood warnings for Hawaii many times days prior to our prolific storms, they has a bunch yesterday. You remember the old met saying about Hawaii, pressure?

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I'm still adjusting to living up here. I got really upset about the tuesday storm...i guess a part of me was still in Philly. Then I realized where I live and got excited...worst case scenario is probably snow to rain followed by a flash freeze and thick crust on the snow pack. Best case scenario, quoting Brian, is a snow bomb. I've seen these things before from a philly perspective and they redevelop east and new england gets a cold solution while we in philly get frustrated and whiny

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Jerry I have the radarscope app for iPad, amazing, I digress, anyway it gives the warnings for the country. I have seen flash flood warnings for Hawaii many times days prior to our prolific storms, they has a bunch yesterday. You remember the old met saying about Hawaii, pressure?

I think that's the seeds of EPO.

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I'm still adjusting to living up here. I got really upset about the tuesday storm...i guess a part of me was still in Philly. Then I realized where I live and got excited...worst case scenario is probably snow to rain followed by a flash freeze and thick crust on the snow pack. Best case scenario, quoting Brian, is a snow bomb. I've seen these things before from a philly perspective and they redevelop east and new england gets a cold solution while we in philly get frustrated and whiny

Marko this is a Markova special

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