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The Pattern beyond Jan 12


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It is definitely starting to have a classic Miller B look to it. The only limiting factor in it becoming a really big storm is a kicker system in the plains behind it.

It has the look of an overrunning event, a Miller B, and SWFE hybrid. I know it's different but it kind of has the bowling ball turning into a coastal look but the snow totals and intensity may rival 12/13/07.

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This event looks as if it wants to bomb near Boston, so there might be the potential for some wrap-around CCB snows in SNE that other areas like mine don't get. In any case, the 18z GFS had a very juicy overrunning scenario with the 18z NAM/18z DGEX confirming the potential. We'll see if the 0z ECM comes around to a stronger solution with more interaction between the northern and southern streams. Could be an impressive event given ratios with 850s near -10C on the back side and then arctic cold moving in afterwards with fresh snowpack on the ground.

I'm going to bust low.....on BOS snow this year.

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It's certainly possible...I could easily see Boston getting close to a foot in the Friday event as well as a few inches tomorrow morning.

How much snow has Logan recorded this year? 35"?

40.4 to date. Unless the pattern totally flips, we seem to be in a year that it wants to snow in. BTW...fwiw, the SSTA dailies have really tanked of late. This Nina has some muscle!

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40.4 to date. Unless the pattern totally flips, we seem to be in a year that it wants to snow in. BTW...fwiw, the SSTA dailies have really tanked of late. This Nina has some muscle!

Yes, this is looking like an epic winter from NYC to BOS: incredible persistence of snowpack, two major blizzards, cold temperatures, and a chance for both stations to near double their averages...

CPC still has Niño 3.4 at -1.5C, but it does look to have cooled significantly in the last few days on the latest SST maps. The whole globe is cooling off nicely with the strong Niña.

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You can see how this thing is just trucking through on the GGEM for instance. So I stick to my 12-16" snowfall max ...GGEM would place that more in the interior, but we can't know yet. Probably most get 6-12".... This one is too fast to produce massive amounts maybe.

Dependent on the Euro run tonight, I think a swath of 10+" across the region lolli 20"

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I think it's a 5-10" type deal, which I am more than happy with.

It's a little slow to bomb and very progressive, as Will alluded to.

This has potential 50 times greater than anything shown verbatim right now. +PNA and a falling -NAO with a rapidly sharpening disturbance diving down from Manitoba, phasing over the TNV. Low heights over the southeast ... probably lower than modeled right now ... allows this thing to dig dig dig. This thing bombs earlier than currently modeled ... which would put it right about ... just south of Cape Cod. High MECS potential if you ask me.

I'm getting a Jan 2005 vibe right now

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This has potential 50 times greater than anything shown verbatim right now. +PNA and a falling -NAO with a rapidly sharpening disturbance diving down from Manitoba, phasing over the TNV. Low heights over the southeast ... probably lower than modeled right now ... allows this thing to dig dig dig. This thing bombs earlier than currently modeled ... which would put it right about ... just south of Cape Cod. High MECS potential if you ask me.

I'm getting a Jan 2005 vibe right now

:weenie:

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This has potential 50 times greater than anything shown verbatim right now. +PNA and a falling -NAO with a rapidly sharpening disturbance diving down from Manitoba, phasing over the TNV. Low heights over the southeast ... probably lower than modeled right now ... allows this thing to dig dig dig. This thing bombs earlier than currently modeled ... which would put it right about ... just south of Cape Cod. High MECS potential if you ask me.

I'm getting a Jan 2005 vibe right now

The kicker kicks it in the fanny.

Seriously, if it all came together, I could see someone getting HECS amounts.....speed of movent means more for the aerial coverage of those type of totals, but you just need all hell to break loose over a 12 hr period to get isolated zones of 20"+.

I'd hedge conservative for now.

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What he is saying is possible, but he was being far too premature and jumping the gun; the fact of the matter is nothing other than the GEM, NAM and DGEX has ever showed anything more than a mod event.

Still time, but I'd hedge mod.

Yeah if we get a big time amped up phase like the NAM then we could be talking about those huge amounts. But relying on the NAM at 84 hrs is never a good thing to do as we all know lol. Maybe the moderate event the GFS shows is the way to go.

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Still think this ends up being 8-12 with higher lollis storm on Friday..but here's BOX current take

AT THE MOMENT...AM BELIEVING A GFS/ECMWF BLEND. AM EXPECTING AQUICK DUMP OF SNOW... ON THE ORDER OF 4 TO 8 INCHES... LATETHURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING...ENDING IN MOST AREAS EXCEPTFAR NORTHERN MA AND SOUTHERN NH BY EARLY AFTERNOON. TEMPERATUREPROFILES SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW ESPECIALLY N AND W OF I-95IN MA/RI. SNOW COULD CHANGE TO RAIN IN SOUTHERN RI AND SOUTHEASTMA. IF THE MORE WESTERN SOLUTIONS TURN OUT TO BE CORRECT...THENMORE OF THE REGION WOULD TRANSITION TO RAIN WHICH WOULD CUTAMOUNTS DOWN A BIT. WITH MOST OF THE SNOW FALLING IN A 12-HOURPERIOD...IT IS LIKELY TO BE QUITE HEAVY DURING THE MORNING RUSHHOUR CAUSING TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES.

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