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NYC Jan 11-12 Miller B Thread Part 2


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Going to be one of the more fun nowcasting events in recent memory. I personally couldn't care less if I got 2 inches...I am seriously and honestly rooting for LI and CT to get crushed. Might take a road trip to LI so I don't miss the thunder snow.

If your out this way let me know :)

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Really an extremely dynamic and compact storm system. Whenever you get systems like this, somebody who sits under the best ML frontogenesis is going to get absolutely hammered. Does the MM5 still have the impressive h5 height falls and tfold? I like OKX's idea of putting thunder in the forecast..wherever that band sets up there should be tssn without a doubt..and probably some totals closing in on 20".

I am all for this system no matter who gets what. Just watching this system evolve and the amount of energy this will be releasing is truly phenomenal. This storm is what this field is all about for me. So if I get 2" or 20" I really don't care anymore. We should all forget about the snow totals and learn a whole lot about thermodynamics with this one!

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Weird pre-storm environment...acting like a powderkeg just waiting to be lit. Morning radar looked like gravity wave city over VA/NC, and now I see that has evolved into multiple bands over Delmarva, with light precip ahead showery in nature. Was out at lunchtime and even noticed that the incoming mid level clouds had lots of embedded small gravity waves.

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Going to be one of the more fun nowcasting events in recent memory. I personally couldn't care less if I got 2 inches...I am seriously and honestly rooting for LI and CT to get crushed. Might take a road trip to LI so I don't miss the thunder snow.

Your welcome at my house if you need a place to stay. I'm 4 miles east of the Nass/Suff line

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Weird pre-storm environment...acting like a powderkeg just waiting to be lit. Morning radar looked like gravity wave city over VA/NC, and now I see that has evolved into multiple bands over Delmarva, with light precip ahead showery in nature. Was out at lunchtime and even noticed that the incoming mid level clouds had lots of embedded small gravity waves.

The hi-resolution models are indicative of that banding just exploding northwestward...it's a weird situation because we won't really be able to see it coming. Usually with our typical nor'easters you can see things blossoming before the storm gets here and then the banding sets up. This is going to be one of the "different" storms I have ever experienced.

Agree re: the gravity waves...I think we will see their re-emergence tonight..and I can't wait for the frontogenic forcing to rear it's head over Long Island.

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But its definitely a pain trying to schedule interviews for our NY clients and advising if our office will be closed or not tomorrow. Now I'm thinking we'll be open since nobody lives in LI and it's looking like the city will be spared the worst.

I am all for this system no matter who gets what. Just watching this system evolve and the amount of energy this will be releasing is truly phenomenal. This storm is what this field is all about for me. So if I get 2" or 20" I really don't care anymore. We should all forget about the snow totals and learn a whole lot about thermodynamics with this one!

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Going to be one of the more fun nowcasting events in recent memory. I personally couldn't care less if I got 2 inches...I am seriously and honestly rooting for LI and CT to get crushed. Might take a road trip to LI so I don't miss the thunder snow.

Now that you have said that, the snow Gods will bless your humility with a thumping.

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The hi-resolution models are indicative of that banding just exploding northwestward...it's a weird situation because we won't really be able to see it coming. Usually with our typical nor'easters you can see things blossoming before the storm gets here and then the banding sets up. This is going to be one of the "different" storms I have ever experienced.

Agree re: the gravity waves...I think we will see their re-emergence tonight..and I can't wait for the frontogenic forcing to rear it's head over Long Island.

lol I could be getting nada and ill still be excited with the way you describe the storm :lol:

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Weird pre-storm environment...acting like a powderkeg just waiting to be lit. Morning radar looked like gravity wave city over VA/NC, and now I see that has evolved into multiple bands over Delmarva, with light precip ahead showery in nature. Was out at lunchtime and even noticed that the incoming mid level clouds had lots of embedded small gravity waves.

Wow, that's interesting.

BTW, does the GFS "concern" you at all?

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looks like SW CT is once again on the border of 18"+ and 6"

Nailbitting here, the hi res models show over 1.5 and the globals are .7

Mesoscale features will once again be key

No kidding man, some of me wishes I was back at college in Hamden. But, strong bands tend to form on the western side of the heavy precip so we actually could be in a good area.

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Going to be one of the more fun nowcasting events in recent memory. I personally couldn't care less if I got 2 inches...I am seriously and honestly rooting for LI and CT to get crushed. Might take a road trip to LI so I don't miss the thunder snow.

Pick me up! I don't want to either...what do you think? I'm going with the Hi-res models as they nailed the blizzard.

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Weird pre-storm environment...acting like a powderkeg just waiting to be lit. Morning radar looked like gravity wave city over VA/NC, and now I see that has evolved into multiple bands over Delmarva, with light precip ahead showery in nature. Was out at lunchtime and even noticed that the incoming mid level clouds had lots of embedded small gravity waves.

A power keg indeed. I can't wait to watch this system explode as that DT starts doing its work. I have no analogs to this storm.

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I keep looking back and forth between the NYC and Philly ones, no one ever mentions Somerset County...any ideas? We got screwed on 12/26 with only 8 inches, probably too far west for anything decent again.

should I be looking for 4-8?

I think we'll get about 6 inches or so. Once again we miss out on the heavy amounts.

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Weird pre-storm environment...acting like a powderkeg just waiting to be lit. Morning radar looked like gravity wave city over VA/NC, and now I see that has evolved into multiple bands over Delmarva, with light precip ahead showery in nature. Was out at lunchtime and even noticed that the incoming mid level clouds had lots of embedded small gravity waves.

You guys will have your hands full tonight.

How do you handle it? Is everyone on call?

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It's just so weird to root for a storm to come even further inside the benchmark.

It's called the benchmark for a reason.

I am not so sure its the surface low placement vs the size and magnitude of the storm. The explosion is progged to happen at the last minute which means a very small and compact storm. The SLP placement really isn't changing anything because the NAM's slp placement didn't change at 18z, just the qpf field, and the rgems placement at 12z matches the other hi resolution models, but its qpf is slightly east of the others (not including 18z NAM).

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Dude..I got 30 inches a few weeks ago while people in various locations didn't get nearly as much. There's some room to spread the love, no?

I hope we can spread the love to Westchester since the last storm mostly missed us with its heaviest banding, but I'm concerned that this time the heaviest mesoscale banding will be over LI. I have to question the tight gradient though; with a low tracking from near the NJ coastline to south of Montauk, I'd have to think the entire metro area into central NJ would be under heavy frontogenic forcing as the mid-level lows close off...This seems like a perfect track for huge totals here and yet the models keep cutting amounts to the west of the LI mega-band...not sure what is going on.

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I hope we can spread the love to Westchester since the last storm mostly missed us with its heaviest banding, but I'm concerned that this time the heaviest mesoscale banding will be over LI. I have to question the tight gradient though; with a low tracking from near the NJ coastline to south of Montauk, I'd have to think the entire metro area into central NJ would be under heavy frontogenic forcing as the mid-level lows close off...This seems like a perfect track for huge totals here and yet the models keep cutting amounts to the west of the LI mega-band...not sure what is going on.

I am thinking this is the answer per TheTrials' post above but maybe a Met can confirm if this is an accurate comment (No offense meant, TheTrials, it seems you have sound reasoning here):

I am not so sure its the surface low placement vs the size and magnitude of the storm. The explosion is progged to happen at the last minute which means a very small and compact storm. The SLP placement really isn't changing anything because the NAM's slp placement didn't change at 18z, just the qpf field, and the rgems placement at 12z matches the other hi resolution models, but its qpf is slightly east of the others (not including 18z NAM).

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The decline in forward speed forecast by the 12z MM5 from hrs 21 - 30 south of LI is particularly attention grabbing to me before the system scoots off to the NE. A result of the rapid deepening I assume? This continues precip back to SW of NYC through hour 33 (into the afternoon Wednesday).

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