Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Westward ho! Apparently a trend not to be denied on the nam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well there would be all sorts of weird stuff if a NAM type solution verifies...probably a lot of thundersnow...good chance at gravity wave....who else knows. Maybe even a tropofold. What's a tropofold Will? I've never heard of that before. I was teasing Wiz with the possibility of a snownado with the last storm lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well there would be all sorts of weird stuff if a NAM type solution verifies...probably a lot of thundersnow...good chance at gravity wave....who else knows. Maybe even a tropofold. What's a tropofold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well there would be all sorts of weird stuff if a NAM type solution verifies...probably a lot of thundersnow...good chance at gravity wave....who else knows. Maybe even a tropofold. Have a gander at that KBED data I posted....unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpsonsbuff Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have a warning in KLEB http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=NHZ005&warncounty=NHC009&firewxzone=NHZ005&local_place1=Lebanon+NH&product1=Winter+Storm+Warning for 6-10 inches. Matches pretty well with the call I sent out (5-9)... of course, if the NAM were correct... Well... u know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 What's a tropofold Will? I've never heard of that before. I was teasing Wiz with the possibility of a snownado with the last storm lol. Its when the tropopause (area between troposphere and stratosphere) gets warped to a much lower height than usual...it often will result in huge winds being mixed down to the sfc from thousands of feet up if you get it in a powerful storm like this. (its how SE MA saw 100mph winds on 12/9/05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 What's a tropofold Will? I've never heard of that before. I was teasing Wiz with the possibility of a snownado with the last storm lol. Something like that has happened before Happens near the Great Lakes every once in a while and I think it happened out on Cape Cod once and up in ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Its when the tropopause (area between troposphere and stratosphere) gets warped to a much lower height than usual...it often will result in huge winds being mixed down to the sfc from thousands of feet up if you get it in a powerful storm like this. (its how SE MA saw 100mph winds on 12/9/05) That's sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Westward ho! Apparently a trend not to be denied on the nam. This is likely too nuts, but everything is inching toward it, except the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Here are all the SREFs BTW...the mean in the big one in lower right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'll take a NAM\SREF comp.....not alot to ask for @ 24 hrs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'll take a NAM\SREF comp.....not alot to ask for @ 24 hrs out. Or a Euro ensemble mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Its when the tropopause (area between troposphere and stratosphere) gets warped to a much lower height than usual...it often will result in huge winds being mixed down to the sfc from thousands of feet up if you get it in a powerful storm like this. (its how SE MA saw 100mph winds on 12/9/05) Wow, thats why thunderstorms have their anvil shape at the top isnt it? And isnt that where the jet stream is? All sorts of weird things happen up there lol-- below it, its really cold, above it, it actually starts to get warmer I think. That would be amazing. I was on the board when the 12/9/05 storm that happened and although I didnt witness it myself, reading all the stuff that came out of E MA it was absolutely amazing-- maybe the most dynamic of any storm since Feb 78?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Or a Euro ensemble mean. Did I interpret that correctly.....was the really a 30+ VV spit out by the NAM for KBED @ hr 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Been browsing around the the WRF model...really love it. Take a look at hourly snowfall across LI at 29 hours...over 3'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Pressure/wind on the dynamic tropopause...~640mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Pressure/wind on the dynamic tropopause...~640mb How's going to bed going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 How's going to bed going heavy, heavy coffee in 2hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wow, thats why thunderstorms have their anvil shape at the top isnt it? And isnt that where the jet stream is? All sorts of weird things happen up there lol-- below it, its really cold, above it, it actually starts to get warmer I think. That would be amazing. I was on the board when the 12/9/05 storm that happened and although I didnt witness it myself, reading all the stuff that came out of E MA it was absolutely amazing-- maybe the most dynamic of any storm since Feb 78?! Yup, that's exactly why, as the cloud tops build and it reaches the tropopause the cloud top spreads out and this is what the anvil is, the air above this is extremely stable, this is why when you see overshooting tops that is a sure sign of a storm that may become extremely severe, especially if this feature lasts for at least a good 10 minutes. This is a sign of a very strong and potent updraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Been browsing around the the WRF model...really love it. Take a look at hourly snowfall across LI at 29 hours...over 3'' Show me that in August or September and I would tell you it looks like a hurricane coming up the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I haven't stayed up this late just to look at runs, when I have to work the next day since the day before Jan 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Show me that in August or September and I would tell you it looks like a hurricane coming up the coast I can't wait until tomorrow when we are a bit closer to the event, I want to see what this shows for hourly snowfall for our region...that's pretty sick seeing over 3'' across LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenoze Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 warnings beginning to be issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Shouldn't we have a new thread soon, this one is just getting over 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Winter storm warnings out for all of CT except the BOX areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Shouldn't we have a new thread soon, this one is just getting over 1k. Bob has been starting the new ones. We can have him start one as soon as he's up. I think he usually signs on pretty early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Bob has been starting the new ones. We can have him start one as soon as he's up. I think he usually signs on pretty early. I want the NAM to verify as is, 10 miles to the se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Bob has been starting the new ones. We can have him start one as soon as he's up. I think he usually signs on pretty early. He definitely has to keep starting these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Geez Will, Ray, Guys it's 4am!!!! I'm in LA where it's 1am so it's reasonable haha. You guys are having a Blasty Blast with this. You better keep me updated. I can't always count on my parents measuring tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Clown map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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