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New England Storm Dicussion - January 11-12


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You and your west fetish. Vertical velocity won't make the band move west, but yes you should do fine, regardless.

Oh I know I'll do fine, just wondering and trying to learn while we wait, thanks. B)

If Kevin was here he'd be asking for the mets to throw out their totals.

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Lol...he's has a jackpot fetish ever since the norlun over performed there.

:lol: I'm being greedy. I want a true jackpot. I could drive for 20 minutes and get in to Mount Shelton to find someone who doubled me from the norlun. I'd be happy with 8 out of this which is all but a lock.

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You and your west fetish. Vertical velocity won't make the band move west, but yes you should do fine, regardless.

Scott, there's still uncertainty for SE areas as there often is with respect to the rain/snow line. On the 26th the rain made it as far west as Newport. Do you see a similar rain-line with this event? My hope is this storm has more balls to it and can keep SE areas snow longer as soon as temps creep up to 33. With that storm as soon as the heavy precip. moved north and we were affected by the dry slot...more spotty areas of precip, we went over to rain.

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:lol: I'm being greedy. I want a true jackpot. I could drive for 20 minutes and get in to Mount Shelton to find someone who doubled me from the norlun. I'd be happy with 8 out of this which is all but a lock.

Yeah I wouldn't worry, you should get at least 10" I would think....with a chance a lot more. Someone further northeast in SNE will probably get the jackpot....or a big total could come out of LI which could do sneaky well if BL temps cooperate enough not to drop ratios too low. But regardless, I think the entire region should be getting pretty big totals save maybe the Cape which is a lot iffier.

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Scott, there's still uncertainty for SE areas as there often is with respect to the rain/snow line. On the 26th the rain made it as far west as Newport. Do you see a similar rain-line with this event? My hope is this storm has more balls to it and can keep SE areas snow longer as soon as temps creep up to 33. With that storm as soon as the heavy precip. moved north and we were affected by the dry slot...more spotty areas of precip, we went over to rain.

It really will depend on the track. 20 miles could be the difference between a 36F rain and a 33F wet snow bomb. I would say that you could mix with rain for a time, especially if you come close to dryslotting and lose the good lift, but it looks like you would have one heck of a wet snow bomb. I know you are pretty far south, but your longitude will help. At least climo helps a little this time around.

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Yeah I wouldn't worry, you should get at least 10" I would think....with a chance a lot more. Someone further northeast in SNE will probably get the jackpot....or a big total could come out of LI which could do sneaky well if BL temps cooperate enough not to drop ratios too low. But regardless, I think the entire region should be getting pretty big totals save maybe the Cape which is a lot iffier.

That's beautiful, thanks for your thoughts. You're even more bullish than Ryan. I know my jackpot odds for anything are obviously minimal given my location but it would be a lot of fun to approach the blizzard total again. What a span here - in a little more than two weeks we may have two systems giving us a combined 30+ inches and a great norlun in the middle. It's insane for coastal Connecticut.

And two bombs being sleet-free, even more shocking! Perhaps some pellets for everyone again? :arrowhead:

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It really will depend on the track. 20 miles could be the difference between a 36F rain and a 33F wet snow bomb. I would say that you could mix with rain for a time, especially if you come close to dryslotting and lose the good lift, but it looks like you would have one heck of a wet snow bomb. I know you are pretty far south, but your longitude will help. At least climo helps a little this time around.

Thanks Scott. At the height of the 26th storm we entered the dryslot earlier than areas just to my east in extreme Southern Bristol County and those beach towns like Westport west of New Bedford had 11 inches while I only had 6 inches. Other than March 1999 significant wet snow bombs in Newport are rare because usually after a couple hours of wet snow with 33 degree temps something has to give and we usually flip to rain or the snow starts melting as it's falling.

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Euro through 24 looks very very similar to 12z...it could end up just a fraction more amped because the vortmax looks more impressive. Heights are almost dead on...again maybe just the slightest fraction amped.

But it definitely seems like we are probably not going to see any huge shifts now. However small shifts will make a big difference for far SE areas, so they'll be important.

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