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New England Storm Dicussion - January 11-12


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i agree with that, messenger...seems a tad flatter (but not much though)

I just dumped the post where i said it was building heights. Had the maps reversed. I try to pull them down and compare locally vs online as it's a faster setup but.

It's a lot stronger with the vorticity, whenever that has been the case we've ended up west.

There's more than one way to get to the same solution, even though it was flatter to start it may not mean much.

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Breaking News:

The 0z NAM appears to be coming up with yet another unique solution at 500.

It did adjust at 0h v 18z and it is flatter for sure than that run very early.

In other news the SREF's shifted a good bit west. Be nice if it could pick a trend.

there is a trend and it's not great if you want to see a snowstorm on the cape. (it's west)

meso are leading the way IMO and a very respectable met i p'md (didn't ask him i could quote him) so i will just say that he said

to the effect " yes i see 0z globals moving west" and he seemed Very confident about that...with a detailed response why listing about 4 reasons which i barely comprehended .

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there is a trend and it's not great if you want to see a snowstorm on the cape. (it's west)

meso are leading the way IMO and a very respectable met i p'md (didn't ask him i could quote him) so i will just say that he said

to the effect " yes i see 0z globals moving west" and he seemed Very confident about that...with a detailed response why listing about 4 reasons which i barely comprehended .

I'm not convinced its any more or even as far west as 18Z at least through the first 21 hours.

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78 was 33 years ago. I think at this point, we (those who were around to enjoy it) merely have it as a "that was great--missed a whole week of school" mentality.

Yeah, I know, 30-40" Eastern Mass except the cape and islands and 10-20" in western , Mass back then. Increadible..:snowman:

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I'm not convinced its any more or even as far west as 18Z at least through the first 21 hours.

well he way talking specifically about the 0z gfs/euro runs.....he did say that if it got too amped up (like the trend of the day was doing....it could slow the ULL and cause it to capture the coastal low later and the NW "hook" would occur later near SNE.

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there is a trend and it's not great if you want to see a snowstorm on the cape. (it's west)

meso are leading the way IMO and a very respectable met i p'md (didn't ask him i could quote him) so i will just say that he said

to the effect " yes i see 0z globals moving west" and he seemed Very confident about that...with a detailed response why listing about 4 reasons which i barely comprehended .

The ARW nailed the "non" event event here the other day, it was way west at 12z.

That said, I think most mets will wait for all the 0z guidance and more importantly the 0z Euro. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of the "meso" models run off the same base/same guesses as our beloved NAM.

If it goes west or east, so should the forecast.

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Cool, best of luck to you!

Where in the area do you live?

OK, I just spent a couple of hours fixing up all my stats and found some great stuff. Here is the Update

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Guys - At least for MBY -

This will be HISTORIC if I can pull 15" out of this. The reason being:

2 15" Snowstorms within 1 month of each other -

1. January of 1948 Winter had 2 in 8 Days.

2. The UnREAL February of 1969 had 2 (24"+ too)

3. The 2 Historic Blizzards of January and February of 1978 of course had 2 (20"+ of course)

Very Close Call in February of 2003.

This would be Huge. Huuuuge if it could be pulled off.

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CHECK THIS OUT....this is awesome, matt noyes was talking about this being a potential hybrid warm core

http://forecast.weat...d2=-70.0728&e=1

Yeah, that was showing up I think yesterday, too. Possible blip in the algorithm thingy that sets the forecast?

But hey, who knows.

I watched the Matt Noyes tech disco... love that shet

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there is a trend and it's not great if you want to see a snowstorm on the cape. (it's west)

meso are leading the way IMO and a very respectable met i p'md (didn't ask him i could quote him) so i will just say that he said

to the effect " yes i see 0z globals moving west" and he seemed Very confident about that...with a detailed response why listing about 4 reasons which i barely comprehended .

lol.

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