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Evening folks, well the storm is finally impacting everybody and it has been a pain in the butt to really figure out. Def ended up on the colder end of things as we have a more established coastal system and its just really hard to see any of the regular posters here even down in York and Lancaster not have mainly frozen with this precip shield. By the time things maybe warm up for some possible liquid later Tuesday, the damage QPF wise will probably have already been done. RIght now in the area the two heaviest bands appear to be situated Harrisburg and south and back west from right on I-99 to about 30 miles or so NW. This has become a bit of a nowcasting type thing so keep the obs comin! esp if anyone witnesses any kind of changeover. Judging by the looks of some of the radars it appears some sleet might be just across the border in MD aways.

Onto the end of the week system.. i'm starting to get excited about it. The NAM and GGEM look great and the GFS is getting there with the ensemble mean looking pretty decent. IMO, I think the pattern we are in is a great setup to see a classic CPA storm like the NAM/GGEM is showing. With the NAO more east based and not as influencing, its going to allow for a more westward track. And with the cold air over the top, there should be a nice shield of snow with this. As I said a few days ago in here i believe, having a stronger -NAO is not as important here as it is for the folks further east if the pattern is supportive for cold in the PNA and AO. I also threw something like this as well as mentioning the MJO in the Philly/NYC thread twice. And it got buried twice without a response haha.

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Evening folks, well the storm is finally impacting everybody and it has been a pain in the butt to really figure out. Def ended up on the colder end of things as we have a more established coastal system and its just really hard to see any of the regular posters here even down in York and Lancaster not have mainly frozen with this precip shield. By the time things maybe warm up for some possible liquid later Tuesday, the damage QPF wise will probably have already been done. RIght now in the area the two heaviest bands appear to be situated Harrisburg and south and back west from right on I-99 to about 30 miles or so NW. This has become a bit of a nowcasting type thing so keep the obs comin! esp if anyone witnesses any kind of changeover. Judging by the looks of some of the radars it appears some sleet might be just across the border in MD aways.

Onto the end of the week system.. i'm starting to get excited about it. The NAM and GGEM look great and the GFS is getting there with the ensemble mean looking pretty decent. IMO, I think the pattern we are in is a great setup to see a classic CPA storm like the NAM/GGEM is showing. With the NAO more east based and not as influencing, its going to allow for a more westward track. And with the cold air over the top, there should be a nice shield of snow with this. As I said a few days ago in here i believe, having a stronger -NAO is not as important here as it is for the folks further east if the pattern is supportive for cold in the PNA and AO. I also threw something like this as well as mentioning the MJO in the Philly/NYC thread twice. And it got buried twice without a response haha.

light to at times mod. snow here...cant tell how much we have received (forgot to clear the snowboard)

i would guess .5"

I wasn't really expecting much so this isn't so bad.

the 0z NAM would be a nice 4-8 / 6-12 event if it plays out as shown.

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I really have to laugh at the amount of people who get so bent out of shape when their area doesn't go under a warning. It's not some kind of magical incantation to bring a more significant event to someones backyard.

Why are they going to be surprised? Unless they have their head in a hole in the ground, they know that there is the potential for an icy mess in the morning when they wake up.

i agree Voyager 100%

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just a hair under 2" now FRZN..( but i have to get to my official measure site).schools here 2 hor delay. good call considering the streets are still covered

I measured 2 inches (1.9 technically) here in Tamaqua. Sleet and freezing rain mix right now, but most of the significant precip is over for even my area. Most of the schools here decided to just close for the day. And as for WSW's vs WWA's, it sure looks like State College made the right call with sticking to just advisories.

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I'm guessing I got about 1.5" snow, impossible to tell with the ice compacting it down though.

Drive to work wasn't too terrible. Props to PennDot for plowing I-83's snow/ice combo INTO THE ON-RAMPS. Ugh ...

My fear now is this junk is all going to refreeze overnight and tomorrow's commute will actually be more treacherous with black ice.

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Anyone in the York area like to give a report? I think I got 3 inches with a glaze of ice on top.

Same..took the dog out and it was total crunchiness on the ground. Flipped the ice over that was on top of the snow and probably about .2" thick...our roads are still covered. Haven't seen a salt truck yet :(

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Just got done with lots. snow was very heavy as we thought it would be. It stopped snowing at home about 4 and went to sleet for a brief period before turning to light freezing rain. About 545-6ish the freezing rain picked up in intensity. It quickly frooze the lots we had just plowed. It did stop for awhile but when i came in it had picked up again with light frzn.

I did measure before to much sleeet and frzn rain could compact it, i was just a hair under 2".

I have not confirmed, but was told our school district closed..

Next!

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Jon, I didn't clear my drive or sidewalks because I wanted snow to absorb the zr. C'mon, take lessons from this Tecas boy! ;)

Friday's event might be great for the snow-starved interior north if 80 crowd.

I waited as long as i could. Normally the lots are done by 530, we didn't even start today til 6. I got hell to pay if people have to walk through a little snow! No biggie, we'll touch it up and salt good

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Ended up with about 1 1/2" here in Maytown. Roads on the way to work were in really good shape. Despite that, my wife's got a busy day with 4 kids home from school.

To piggy back on what Voyageur and Jon said...I'll defend CTP once again. At least in our area, this was NOT a warning event. The WWA they had up worked out perfectly. There is a threshold that needs to be reached to validate a warning, and here in Lancaster, we weren't even close. To those that were ripping CTP over this last evening...

...they were right. And they usually are. Certainly not always, but a good bit of the time. And again, those comments are specific to my immediate area...perhaps some of you further north reached that criteria.

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Ended up with about 1 1/2" here in Maytown. Roads on the way to work were in really good shape. Despite that, my wife's got a busy day with 4 kids home from school.

To piggy back on what Voyageur and Jon said...I'll defend CTP once again. At least in our area, this was NOT a warning event. The WWA they had up worked out perfectly. There is a threshold that needs to be reached to validate a warning, and here in Lancaster, we weren't even close. To those that were ripping CTP over this last evening...

...they were right. And they usually are. Certainly not always, but a good bit of the time. And again, those comments are specific to my immediate area...perhaps some of you further north reached that criteria.

Yup, CTP nailed it again. They are pros for a reason, huh? haha

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CTP is always hanging back and conservative. But are usually fairly close.

About an 1" here with hard crust.

Gonna have a few cups of coffee and hopefully the light freezing mist will be done. Then snow cleanup.

Here is a pic of the radar about 3:00 am . Someone was getting dry slotted in a couple places.

On to the weekend storm now.

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Ended up with about 1 1/2" here in Maytown. Roads on the way to work were in really good shape. Despite that, my wife's got a busy day with 4 kids home from school.

To piggy back on what Voyageur and Jon said...I'll defend CTP once again. At least in our area, this was NOT a warning event. The WWA they had up worked out perfectly. There is a threshold that needs to be reached to validate a warning, and here in Lancaster, we weren't even close. To those that were ripping CTP over this last evening...

...they were right. And they usually are. Certainly not always, but a good bit of the time. And again, those comments are specific to my immediate area...perhaps some of you further north reached that criteria.

They were near perfect here.

In other news, the new NAM gives me and other unv peeps .49 and cold temps for the late week event, so back up with ol' QPF.

Want to know your area? Go here: http://www.wxcaster.com/models_text.htm

They even do THV!

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