Quakertown needs snow Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 looks like a 996 at 33hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wetter from del river east, drier del river west...more of a gradient with stronger storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wetter from del river east, drier del river west...more of a gradient with stronger storm Definitely don't like that.... I would think with a stronger storm would mean more QPF, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wetter from del river east, drier del river west...more of a gradient with stronger storm what is is showing qpf wise for philly and burbs, you said drier but looks like over .50 and burbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Definitely don't like that.... I would think with a stronger storm would mean more QPF, not less. Not lately it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Definitely don't like that.... I would think with a stronger storm would mean more QPF, not less. It means more QPF for the places that get hit, but a small precip shield overall, if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wetter from del river east, drier del river west...more of a gradient with stronger storm Yeah, no kidding...81 corridor struggles to reach 0.25 QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wetter from del river east, drier del river west...more of a gradient with stronger storm Looks like the 21SREFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Feakin New England Road trip if I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 It means more QPF for the places that get hit, but a small precip shield overall, if that makes sense. Yeah, no kidding...81 corridor struggles to reach 0.25 QPF. No matter what the scenario, east or west, we still get fringed. What ever happened to the coastals that gave everyone from central pa on east a good healthy foot of snow? Storms such as 83 and 96 come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 what is is showing qpf wise for philly and burbs, you said drier but looks like over .50 and burbs ill do the qpf once it comes out on u gotta wait till it gets like hr 66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 No matter what the scenario, east or west, we still get fringed. What ever happened to the coastals that gave everyone from central pa on east a good healthy foot of snow? Storms such as 83 and 96 come to mind. you'll get higher ratios if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeex777 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Long Island is buried. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 No matter what the scenario, east or west, we still get fringed. What ever happened to the coastals that gave everyone from central pa on east a good healthy foot of snow? Storms such as 83 and 96 come to mind. This is a Miller B, so you should know better than to expect that from this one. The Miller A on 12/26 was a somewhat different story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 It means more QPF for the places that get hit, but a small precip shield overall, if that makes sense. yea i bet phl, has hgr qpf than 18z, even though it looks like they may have less with how the qpf shrunk on the west side....I wonder if this is a case where if we get a more amplified northern stream with stronger h5 its slower at transferring to the coastal giving a more widespread qpf distribution. While a less amplified norther stream and not as strong h5, but faster northren stream leads to a quicker transfer and more compact qpf field, but higher totals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Probably_Maybe_No Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 This is a Miller B, so you should know better than to expect that from this one. The Miller A on 12/26 was a somewhat different story... Yeah this is pretty much the best case scenario that's been presented over the past few days. 5-7" for philly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 This is a Miller B, so you should know better than to expect that from this one. The Miller A on 12/26 was a somewhat different story... Yes, I know. Frustration kicking in I guess. Hopefully, as another poster mentioned, ratios will help us out a little. Do you think 15:1 is a possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 eta pretty much exactly like the nam with qpf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thru 42... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluescat1 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I am expecting a moderate event 5-10" if I get more that will just be frosting on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 yea i bet phl, has hgr qpf than 18z, even though it looks like they may have less with how the qpf shrunk on the west side....I wonder if this is a case where if we get a more amplified northern stream with stronger h5 its slower at transferring to the coastal giving a more widespread qpf distribution. While a less amplified norther stream and not as strong h5, but faster northren stream leads to a quicker transfer and more compact qpf field, but higher totals That's pretty much the story. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpantz Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 <br />This is a Miller B, so you should know better than to expect that from this one.<br /><br />The Miller A on 12/26 was a somewhat different story...<br /><br /><br /><br />Is it sad that "Miller B" was on my list of cons when I decided to move from N NJ to E PA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Yes, I know. Frustration kicking in I guess. Hopefully, as another poster mentioned, ratios will help us out a little. Do you think 15:1 is a possibility? Possible, sure. I try not to bet on ratios, though. Got screwed with 10:1 on 12/26 while areas east with more precip also had better ratios... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreal Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> Is it sad that "Miller B" was on my list of cons when I decided to move from N NJ to E PA? Copy that. Who knew moving 30 miles due west would hurt so bad. (Rockaway Twp to Bangor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Possible, sure. I try not to bet on ratios, though. Got screwed with 10:1 on 12/26 while areas east with more precip also had better ratios... well to help him out, that blizzard had strong winds which cut the ratios down. This storm wont have those kind of winds, so ratios could be higher cause of that factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 well to help him out, that blizzard had strong winds which cut the ratios down. This storm wont have those kind of winds, so ratios could be higher cause of that factor While true... just imagine how high ratios might've been in the superband on 12/26 if there wasn't as much wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmators Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 well to help him out, that blizzard had strong winds which cut the ratios down. This storm wont have those kind of winds, so ratios could be higher cause of that factor How does wind kill ratios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardlover Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Possible, sure. I try not to bet on ratios, though. Got screwed with 10:1 on 12/26 while areas east with more precip also had better ratios... LOL,no, I got screwed in Newark, DE where we were perhaps 25 mi from a non-moving deformation band. Snowed lightly all day and we got a whopping 3", perhaps less. This storm might also have an unforgiving gradient rapidly getting worse to the S&W of PHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 How does wind kill ratios It physically breaks dendrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> Is it sad that "Miller B" was on my list of cons when I decided to move from N NJ to E PA? It is a beautiful thing! Why not take something like that into consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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