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PHL Jan 11-12 Miller B Thread


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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:06 AM, jrodd321 said:

Really good consensus for the Philly area starting to build now (except for the out to lunch GFS) of .5-.75". Good to see the Euro finally come in wetter.

well we hope it is out to lunch, if i recall, the gfs has been excellent inside 48 hours recently.

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:20 AM, Yes_Probably_Maybe_No said:

Looking at the NMM, it shows what appears to be another inverted trough type of QPF output. MM5 is actually similar. Any thoughts or is it just model junk?

the nmm looks like junk on the qpf thing...looks like something got messed up...its has that tail like feature all the way through wva lol

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:21 AM, Nikolai said:

Link, if you please? :)

WRF ARW

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/hiresw/00/model_m.shtml

WRF NMM

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/hiresw/00/model_l.shtml

Total prceip for these was posted a couple pages back but their just coming out now on ncep's site

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:26 AM, Yes_Probably_Maybe_No said:

So model junk it is. It's a shame because the MM5 shows roughly 50mm in Philly, which is equal to approx. 2 inches of QPF. One can only dream...:snowman:

im not saying the mm5 is, that looks better..but look at the nmm qpf map doesnt it look weird to u...like look down in lower del with the qpf bombs then the tail like features

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:28 AM, tombo82685 said:

im not saying the mm5 is, that looks better..but look at the nmm qpf map doesnt it look weird to u...like look down in lower del with the qpf bombs then the tail like features

if you watch the loop it appears that there is a technical error and as the precip moves through virginia into md just west of dc it doesn't show anything.

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:28 AM, tombo82685 said:

im not saying the mm5 is, that looks better..but look at the nmm qpf map doesnt it look weird to u...like look down in lower del with the qpf bombs then the tail like features

Yeah I see what you're saying with those QPF streaks. I'm still somewhat interested in that QPF wedge that they both show in our area. We'll see how it goes I guess...:popcorn:

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  On 1/11/2011 at 6:35 AM, Yes_Probably_Maybe_No said:

Yeah I see what you're saying with those QPF streaks. I'm still somewhat interested in that QPF wedge that they both show in our area. We'll see how it goes I guess...:popcorn:

nvm

I was looking at the 24 hour accumulated precip to only 36 on the MM5, but through 48 it smoothes out. It's egregiously overdone.

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