alex Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 This post is just as thoughtless as you claim our celebrations are. There are plenty of folks down here who depend on snow as well - plow operators, for instance. I don't have numbers but I'd bet you the amount of money that flows because of a snowy winter in SNE is probably larger than the entire snowmobiling-related economy of northern maine. And besides, nobody in here is wishing you or anybody a bad winter. We're just happy that, for once, we get lucky - and yes, it sucks the same is not happening for you and I would love to see everyone covered from CC to Stowe to CAR - but we can't control the weather and all we can do is be upset when it sucks, and happy when it's great. No reason to direct your anger at us. OK, now back to my regularly schedule lurking. Another disaster for N. Maine. All winter snow is being wasted on dilletantes who think snow's purpose is to be sculpted in to perfect snowbanks. Suburban and city tyros who squeal delightedly when their snow cancels classes at the community college nearby. Snow is lifes blood up here. Thousands of businesses are dependent upon it for their sustenance and it has not appeared at all. An unprecedented economic disaster is unfolding up here in N. Maine. True hardship is upon us here because of this horrible pattern. S. New England's snow is squandered there. It's a decorative nuisance. An embellishment for bus route weenies. Lack of snow for them is psychic pain only. No snow for us is economic disaster. Your celebrations in S. New England are as thoughtless as your snow is pointless. I write this as an ex-Cape Codder/Westonian. Vim Toot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 We'll get 8+. That's about the best I can come up with. I figure the 7"-14" range feels about right. Going to hate the post-midnight march on the radar... the push north is going to feel slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Crazy Uncle blows. It may have hit the most recent event but it was pure luck. Most of the time, but it did outperform all but the GFS in the midsection with heights the last few days. Again just putting it out there because I opened the door with the verification data 2 hours ago. Tie it up. If the Euro went east what would you do? Isn't the 12z GFS essentially what the Euro showed in terms of track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well then, take it personally. Esthetics vs. economic survival. Hmmmm, which matters more??? Vim Toot Looks like we have an early entry to the 2011 WOY contest take note people. no one outside of NNE should be celebrating about our good fortune in the upcoming snowstorm...we don't deserve it. Can a mod please limit this clown to 5/day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Most of the time, but it did outperform all but the GFS in the midsection with heights the last few days. Again just putting it out there because I opened the door with the verification data 2 hours ago. Tie it up. If the Euro went east what would you do? Kick the chair out from under me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The GFS looks good for sw NH down through central and western mass..just looking at how the mid levels look. Seems like a decent banding signal out that way, on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Seems like a decent banding signal out that way, on this run. would likely be some really good snow growth too just based on mid-level temps...of course, w/out looking at bufkit it's hard to pinpoint but you could envision one of those scenarios where there's a secondary max in the western hills with nice outer deformation band. maybe a "relative" screwzone east of there and then another max closer in to the BOS/PVD corridor or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 would likely be some really good snow growth too just based on mid-level temps...of course, w/out looking at bufkit it's hard to pinpoint but you could envision one of those scenarios where there's a secondary max in the western hills with nice outer deformation band. maybe a "relative" screwzone east of there and then another max closer in to the BOS/PVD corridor or something along those lines. Starting to sound like a classic snow distribution with a coastal bomb like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Kick the chair out from under me. LOL...I think we're all (most of the normal SNE crew) in a great spot. I mean it's mainly semantics now although it does bug me a little that the RGEM/UK won't come west even so close in. Even keeping tabs on the old NOGAPs...Will's rule applied pretty well the other day with it, when it trended for 3 runs it was a good sign. It is maybe moving a little NW but is still way away... I'm thinking out loud but wonder if we see the GEFS a little east of the OP...who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 would likely be some really good snow growth too just based on mid-level temps...of course, w/out looking at bufkit it's hard to pinpoint but you could envision one of those scenarios where there's a secondary max in the western hills with nice outer deformation band. maybe a "relative" screwzone east of there and then another max closer in to the BOS/PVD corridor or something along those lines. Yeah I'm just going by how it looks on this run. There is some pretty intense lift going on, in places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Haven't heard mush discussion about wind strength and size of the wind field. I'm assuming not as impressive as the post Xmas storm? Maybe just the coast? I don't know--but I had a peak 8' gust of 33 mph last night. The yard is very different this morning than it was at sunset yesterday. And, the dirveway I cleared yesterday is 'not so much' anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Seems like a decent banding signal out that way, on this run. One thing has bothered me for days. Why the paltry snow numbers in MOS? No one gets anything big. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 One thing has bothered me for days. Why the paltry snow numbers in MOS? No one gets anything big. Why? Because the UK is right? J/k put the sharp objects away. What is MOS driven off of again? I noticed a couple of times this year when the models were high/low that damn thing seems to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 One thing has bothered me for days. Why the paltry snow numbers in MOS? No one gets anything big. Why? i saw that jerry. not sure. i don't pay much attention to them...but i'm always intrigued when they are opposite of what we are seeing (i.e. when they are big and modeling is a no go) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well then, take it personally. Esthetics vs. economic survival. Hmmmm, which matters more??? Vim Toot Well, at least with esthetics, you can feel good when you look around you when everything else is in the sh*tter. So, I'd go with esthetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Another disaster for N. Maine. All winter snow is being wasted on dilletantes who think snow's purpose is to be sculpted in to perfect snowbanks. Suburban and city tyros who squeal delightedly when their snow cancels classes at the community college nearby. Snow is lifes blood up here. Thousands of businesses are dependent upon it for their sustenance and it has not appeared at all. An unprecedented economic disaster is unfolding up here in N. Maine. True hardship is upon us here because of this horrible pattern. S. New England's snow is squandered there. It's a decorative nuisance. An embellishment for bus route weenies. Lack of snow for them is psychic pain only. No snow for us is economic disaster. Your celebrations in S. New England are as thoughtless as your snow is pointless. I write this as an ex-Cape Codder/Westonian. Vim Toot Rant, baby! But yeah, it's been a slow start to snowmobiling here too...although the ski areas in the northern half of VT have done pretty well and they'd be in real good shape if it weren't for the New Year's weekend thaw. Guess we gotta just pray a little harder to the snow gods, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 One thing has bothered me for days. Why the paltry snow numbers in MOS? No one gets anything big. Why? That may change at 12z today. I only see 06z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 i saw that jerry. not sure. i don't pay much attention to them...but i'm always intrigued when they are opposite of what we are seeing (i.e. when they are big and modeling is a no go) I usually don't pay attention to the snow products on MOS either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 That may change at 12z today. I only see 06z. It didn't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 GGEM is parked on the BM. Nice trough into NJ. Heavy snows moving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Because the UK is right? J/k put the sharp objects away. What is MOS driven off of again? I noticed a couple of times this year when the models were high/low that damn thing seems to be good. I'm a believer in MOS snow numbers ...they tend to foretell something but maybe it will change as we get close. For the life of me, all models keeping most areas all snow but no one getting a big number despite ample qpf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I think it makes sense Weathafella for the same reason the CCB missed here last time, it's going to be moving NE or ENE aloft. -- Isn't there a theory that the UK portends the upcoming EC? FWIW, it's still east...maybe wobbled west a little at first glance. So the RGEM/UK versus the NAM/GFS and probably Euro. I'm kind of surprised the UK has stayed this far east. didnt the uk take until inside 24 hrs to accuartely show the 12/26 storm? i know it is a different set up but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 GGEM is parked on the BM. Nice trough into NJ. Heavy snows moving in. GGEM has moved a tad west. That looks like it's a bit north of the BM but at 70 W so it must pass inside. Big snow on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 GGEM is parked on the BM. Nice trough into NJ. Heavy snows moving in. Does that represent a shift in any direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Does that represent a shift in any direction? I think it went inside the BM but to me...a trend somewhat west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Gigantic warmup on the beyond d10 GFS. There's a good Jan thaw signal for the last week of the month. Full meltdown and do it again in February. Winter rocking along for NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 GGEM has moved a tad west. That looks like it's a bit north of the BM but at 70 W so it must pass inside. Big snow on the way. When you talk about weirdness...when is the RGEM ever 9 mb weaker than the GGEM at 48 hours? Throwing it out again because whenever I'm about to get buried by the GGEM inside of 48 someone will say "the cmc doesnt even use the GGEM inside of 48 hours" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 12z RGEM Color Plot. Just a hair inside the BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Not sure it was posted here yet but NWS Albany finally has WSW posted for the Berks and E. NY just S. of the CD. Brief new discussion posted also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Gigantic warmup on the beyond d10 GFS. There's a good Jan thaw signal for the last week of the month. Full meltdown and do it again in February. Winter rocking along for NE. Last nights runs also had a pretty big coastal storm in that time range. Maybe that's what changes the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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