OHSnow Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 With 75.8" at YNG, the rest of the season just needs to average normal to set a new snowfall record and the way things are going it should be well above that. There hasn't even been a single major synoptic snowstorm. Can you imagine if a 12"+ type storm were to hit sometime before the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 December 2010 is not only the snowiest December on record, but it is the snowiest month ever at 53.1". January 2010 will not surpass that total, but it's no slacker. The second snowiest month on record at the National Weather Service office in Trumbull county is January 1999 at 36.4" January 2011 has piled up 22.7" making it the 10th snowiest January. The 2010-2011 Winter season has inched up to 75.8", just 1.9" away from jumping into the top ten snowiest seasons on record. Keep shoveling! source: http://www.myvalleyweather.com/content/news/story/January-2011-snow-records/anndIbZ4UES0rvC1wRuLuA.cspx Wow. When did the NWS get an office in Trumbull County? They need to get a spotter in Vienna to compare the totals. I think we have a few people from Youngstown on here, what is the seasonal total in Youngstown, 25-35 inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 December 2010 is not only the snowiest December on record, but it is the snowiest month ever at 53.1". January 2010 will not surpass that total, but it's no slacker. The second snowiest month on record at the National Weather Service office in Trumbull county is January 1999 at 36.4" January 2011 has piled up 22.7" making it the 10th snowiest January. The 2010-2011 Winter season has inched up to 75.8", just 1.9" away from jumping into the top ten snowiest seasons on record. Keep shoveling! source: http://www.myvalleyw...rvC1wRuLuA.cspx Keep dreaming As Trent mentioned, now that we have some local YNG posters it will be interesting to see YNG's snowfall reports vs. reality. Maybe the CLE NWS can start reporting Chardon's snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 CLE re: next week. Seasonal trends A MODERATION IN TEMPERATURES TO NEAR NORMAL READINGS WILL OCCUR. MODELS IN GENERAL AGREEMENT IN MOVING AN UPPER LOW AND SURFACE TROF THROUGH THE REGION TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT. THE 12Z ECMWF/GEM SPINS UP THE LOW ALONG THE EAST COAST AND THAT HANGS UNTO THE SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE EASTERN AREAS LONGER...I.E...WEDNESDAY. THIS SCENARIO SEEMS REASONABLE BASES ON THE PATTERN AND THE RECENT STORM SYSTEMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Pretty easy to see how YNG's snowfall totals are inflated. Same amount of precip for CLE and YNG... yet a 1.5" difference in snowfall. CLE: PRECIPITATION (IN) TODAY 0.03 0.08 -0.05 T MONTH TO DATE 1.66 1.69 -0.03 0.86 SINCE DEC 1 3.00 4.83 -1.83 3.57 SINCE JAN 1 1.66 1.69 -0.03 0.86 SNOWFALL (IN) TODAY 0.2 0.6 -0.4 0.0 MONTH TO DATE 18.5 11.4 7.1 16.0 YNG: PRECIPITATION (IN) TODAY 0.03 0.07 -0.04 T MONTH TO DATE 1.76 1.64 0.12 1.01 SINCE DEC 1 5.57 4.60 0.97 4.42 SINCE JAN 1 1.76 1.64 0.12 1.01 SNOWFALL (IN) TODAY 1.7 0.4 1.3 0.0 MONTH TO DATE 22.7 9.9 12.8 21.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well, it's obvious that the CLE total is wrong -- what is that? About 8:1 ratios with temps in the teens. That's absurd. Should be at least 20:1. Plus, with the wind, some of the precip. was probably under-reported by the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytown1425 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Keep dreaming As Trent mentioned, now that we have some local YNG posters it will be interesting to see YNG's snowfall reports vs. reality. Maybe the CLE NWS can start reporting Chardon's snowfall. Well there is no way that youngstown has seen even half of the 75" that the airport is claiming. This winter has been annoying with all the nickel and dime stuff. I am actually moving down to columbus in a few weeks so I won't be able to verify youngstown's totals. I'm hoping to see a little more sunshine during winter down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Already down to 3 degrees here..should go below zero soon!! And what is everyones thought about this upcoming storm..Talk models or gut feeling or whatever..I am ready for another storm plzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Already down to 3 degrees here..should go below zero soon!! And what is everyones thought about this upcoming storm..Talk models or gut feeling or whatever..I am ready for another storm plzzzz My feeling is we have a slim chance here, but a chance. We may be far enough east that if this tracks west 150 miles we could have a good shot at accumulating snow. But that chance is slim as of right now and if the 12z models hold serve I'm throwing in the towel I think. I'm already sickened by the fact that last nights 0z run showed 1.55 qpf and tonights showed .06 That is just a huge discrepency. But as I said slim chance. Just have to watch and see Steve. I'm going out on a big limb, but Id watch for a storm around the 1st-3rd of february. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeSam Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Already down to 3 degrees here..should go below zero soon!! And what is everyones thought about this upcoming storm..Talk models or gut feeling or whatever..I am ready for another storm plzzzz I agree with dilly, slim chance at best for a big storm next week. Looks like a couple shots of 1-3" and then we'll wait to see what's around the corner. I do think we've got a lot of winter ahead of us still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Wow!!! Just got up and it is -9 below zero..Coldest it has been here in a very long time..Now if we can get some snow with this next storm!!!!!And by the way..I don't remember the last time we had a winter with sustained cold as we are having this winter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 A pretty decent primary band developed last night along the west shore through downtown out to the east burbs. Lasted about 6 hours, but with the mostly frozen lake, just a mere 0.6" of new accumulation, had this been a few weeks sooner, easily 8-12". Last night's temps near zero and light winds likely took a huge number on any remaining open spots on the western half. I'm still amazed at the lack of synoptic events in this part of the region so far this winter. With the lake effect machine dead, I wouldn't mind a 2 week blowtorch and a return to winter. Otherwise we need a good 30 inches of synoptic snows yet this season to hit normal. Also interesting to note that the record highs yesterday in Ohio were all in the 70s dating back to 1906, with most of the record lows being -15 to -20 from 1985. That's a good 90-100 degree spread in possible temperatures for this time of year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 A pretty decent primary band developed last night along the west shore through downtown out to the east burbs. Lasted about 6 hours, but with the mostly frozen lake, just a mere 0.6" of new accumulation, had this been a few weeks sooner, easily 8-12". Last night's temps near zero and light winds likely took a huge number on any remaining open spots on the western half. I'm still amazed at the lack of synoptic events in this part of the region so far this winter. With the lake effect machine dead, I wouldn't mind a 2 week blowtorch and a return to winter. Otherwise we need a good 30 inches of synoptic snows yet this season to hit normal. Also interesting to note that the record highs yesterday in Ohio were all in the 70s dating back to 1906, with most of the record lows being -15 to -20 from 1985. That's a good 90-100 degree spread in possible temperatures for this time of year! Out in the Mayfield Heights area where I was for a few hours last night they did push an inch or so with the band, but it was nothing impressive. From Thursday afternoon-Friday night saw a grand total of 4.8" here...about an inch of that was lake effect yesterday. Although the bands were narrow and low topped, drove back and forth from Akron-Solon-Mayfield-Willoughby yesterday and did encounter the bands several times. Must have been the winds but visibilities were commonly cut below 1/4 miles in the snow showers, but if I drove another mile or two down the road the sun would be breaking out. The continued ability for synoptic storms to impact the Great Lakes/Ohio Valley region has been very impressive this season, especially given the La Nina. I strongly suspect the blocking that has dominated much of this winter has had a lot to do with keeping storms to suppressed over the Mid West to blow up before getting east of the Apps. Even with this said, just topped 85" yesterday. For being near the bullseye or at least in the area of heaviest snows for almost every WNW-NNW flow event (which has been almost every event, have seen a couple WSW-SW flow events that hammer western NY) it's impressive that I'm less than 10" ahead of YNG Anyways, after becoming mildly interested in the potential synoptic threat for the 24th-26th time frame a few days ago, it has become clear that a combination of a strong Pacific jet flattening the +PNA ridge and a re-emerging -NAO to keep heights too low over the east for our trough to amplify west of Ohio will likely screw us yet again: The models have if anything strengthened the -NAO for this time frame over the past few days and have been just a bit slower in bringing the trough away from the northeast, which really makes it hard for a trough to amplify and buckle the flow enough for heights to significantly rise over the east and send a storm up the Apps or just west of them. Given the great position of the trough over the Mississippi Valley before the models go to the crapper am apprehensive to completely write off the storm, but a strong Pacific jet and building -NAO don't bode well for our region. Anyways, as we look a week or so out the models don't really keep the -NAO in place and attempt to build back the +PNA, but despite disagreements in trough placement the GFS and ECM both show what would likely be too broad of a trough for any significant synoptic storms over our area through day 10, although the pattern does support continued clippers dropping 1-2" every few days: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Well there is no way that youngstown has seen even half of the 75" that the airport is claiming. This winter has been annoying with all the nickel and dime stuff. I am actually moving down to columbus in a few weeks so I won't be able to verify youngstown's totals. I'm hoping to see a little more sunshine during winter down there. Thank you for confirming this. Glad we have someone in the area to actually gauge the snowfall. Enjoy CMH... its a great city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Am probably moving to Akron before next lake effect season, have to enjoy these last little gasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Am probably moving to Akron before next lake effect season, have to enjoy these last little gasps Yeah. Well, if you live in Fairlawn or Cuyahoga Falls, you'll still do ok. I picked up 0.6" of fluff last night, I don't know how CLE could only report a trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 -4 at Ashtabula, as of 8 PM. Looks like it should get down to -10 to -20 there tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 -4 at Ashtabula, as of 8 PM. Looks like it should get down to -10 to -20 there tonight. 10 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Lake Erie Ice Cover Image Almost iced over completely. Tonight's lows below freezing should do a number on filling the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 LOL at this board. The link above doesn't work because of a strict "censoring" of this board. Apparently the word Coast Watch when run together turns into **** because of the t and wat from two separate words. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 LOL at this board. The link above doesn't work because of a strict "censoring" of this board. Apparently the word Coast Watch when run together turns into **** because of the t and wat from two separate words. What a joke. Yeah that type of thing has been happening. I'm gonna see whether this can be taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 BUFKIT is showing some freezing drizzle in CBUS tonight...Might be a little slippery on the way out the door tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlogin Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Just thought I'd pass this site along for the Ohio, and in particular CMH group--- http://polarmet.osu.edu/PolarMet/wrfohionwp.html I got no dog in the hunt this year( somebody else is snowblowing my driveway) Still ---hope you and yours get hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Just thought I'd pass this site along for the Ohio, and in particular CMH group--- http://polarmet.osu....wrfohionwp.html I got no dog in the hunt this year( somebody else is snowblowing my driveway) Still ---hope you and yours get hammered Sweet, another model for buckeye to whip out before a snowstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTechEE Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hi all, first post... that slug of radar returns coming up the Ohio valley is no interest for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hi all, first post... that slug of radar returns coming up the Ohio valley is no interest for us? Hey welcome to the boards. Looks like most was virga, but its still moving north maybe we get lucky, but I doubt it. Hope to see u post more. But welcome to the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'll be traveling out west next week until Wednesday... you can lock-up the storm now for OH since I will not be here. Happens with just about every major storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'll be traveling out west next week until Wednesday... you can lock-up the storm now for OH since I will not be here. Happens with just about every major storm You're really only going to miss a couple clippers for Friday and Saturday. With that being said, might be the largest synoptic snow of the season around these parts. I wouldn't worry about the storm next week. The Euro has a lakes cutter = WTOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 <br />You're really only going to miss a couple clippers for Friday and Saturday. With that being said, might be the largest synoptic snow of the season around these parts.<img src='http://img.amwx.us/public/style_emoticons/default/arrowheadsmiley.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br />I wouldn't worry about the storm next week. The Euro has a lakes cutter = WTOD.<br /> I'd like to be around with snow potential... but its work travel so I have to do it. Enjoy the clipper parade. Looks like this may be the largest storm of the year. The storm next week is still a loooong way away. Not going to get worked up over a few model runs showing a cutter... a borderline cutter at that. Plenty of time for a southeast adjustment on the models. My inner weenie sees a KY to PITT track... maybe a little west of that. WTOD would not doubt be a threat. The details are far from being resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTechEE Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Wow, talk about a big head fake swing and a miss for us here in SW Ohio! http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Yesterday.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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