ag3 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 ORH area still does well as do many areas NW of there. What's the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 ORH area still does well as do many areas NW of there. What's the issue? the issue is the people nw of orh never really doubted it, its where people actually live and work that is getting screwed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Euro is no longer the king, but every model is still awful. If there wasnt snow involved they would have nailed it down 7 days ago..Something with winter storms and the -NAO really ***** up the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Because models are pathetic and a joke, I will post them in the banter thread. Here's another fabulous model we have, the 12z NMM. And a lot of this is frozen for NYC too. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 tell you who isn't a joke, Curits Granderson. Based off today, he is the leading candidate for AL MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 tell you who isn't a joke, Curits Granderson. Based off today, he is the leading candidate for AL MVP. you a yankee fan? im loving the bullpen this year, they are just shreading detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 you a yankee fan? im loving the bullpen this year, they are just shreading detroit. am I a yanke fan? I bleed pinstripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 am I a yanke fan? I bleed pinstripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Euro is no longer the king, but every model is still awful. If there wasnt snow involved they would have nailed it down 7 days ago..Something with winter storms and the -NAO really ***** up the models. Comma head precip is tough for models to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Tigers' bullpen is ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 This brings up a really good point and a further question.... how do we define what a "snow town" is? How much does the average annual snowfall need to be to have that honor bestowed upon a town? I say it's somewhere between 40-60"....although I'm uncertain what the lower limit I would place on it would be..... probably either 50" or 60" For me, I define a snow town as somewhere I can go in the winter (DJF) and essentially be guaranteed snow either on the ground or in the air. Cities with 40-60" snowfall usually don't pass that test, Hartford, Boston, Chicago, etc, as usually there's a large chunk of the winter with either no snow on the ground or nothing falling. I think you've got to go into the 60"+ areas for snow town country -- and that basically includes the northern mid west, near the Great Lakes, higher terrain of PA down to the spine of the appalachains, through the northern poconos, clipping High Point NJ, northeastward through ORH into southern Maine. 40-60" is usually snow but falls short of the honorable snow town. Our region, 20-40", is too variable to be considered anything, one year 70" then the next 8". And below 20" fuggetabouit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Comma head precip is tough for models to figure out. thats true, but i think it has more to do with the low pressure deepening later and maturing later than what the models were showing 2-3 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Rivera is going old school this year with the pants up high...LOVE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Granderson FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 WOW, If this is the kind of year granderson is going to have, look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 For me, I define a snow town as somewhere I can go in the winter (DJF) and essentially be guaranteed snow either on the ground or in the air. Cities with 40-60" snowfall usually don't pass that test, Hartford, Boston, Chicago, etc, as usually there's a large chunk of the winter with either no snow on the ground or nothing falling. I think you've got to go into the 60"+ areas for snow town country -- and that basically includes the northern mid west, near the Great Lakes, higher terrain of PA down to the spine of the appalachains, through the northern poconos, clipping High Point NJ, northeastward through ORH into southern Maine. 40-60" is usually snow but falls short of the honorable snow town. Our region, 20-40", is too variable to be considered anything, one year 70" then the next 8". And below 20" fuggetabouit. Yes, agree with this map. Areas that are especially snowy are the Laurel Mountains of NW PA (150-200"), the Northern Greens in VT (200-350"), the Tug Hill Plateau in Upstate NY(200-300"), and the Keeweenau Peninsula (200-300")....great places to visit. thats true, but i think it has more to do with the low pressure deepening later and maturing later than what the models were showing 2-3 days ago. I think the models are often prone to developing the mid-levels too early in blossoming Nor'easters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 thats true, but i think it has more to do with the low pressure deepening later and maturing later than what the models were showing 2-3 days ago. Besides that, there is the track to consider as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Besides that, there is the track to consider as well. I think the track is OK for NYC but the low pressure is just not explosive enough. 12z ECM only shows us getting .25" QPF because the mid levels and associated CCB don't develop until the storm passes into New England. This is a general problem with the models in that they develop the mid-levels too early.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Who is going to claim victory for no snow? Pazzo am I a yanke fan? I bleed pinstripes. Mets Tigers' bullpen is ugly. You're ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 you a yankee fan? im loving the bullpen this year, they are just shreading detroit. Yanks have the worst collapse of all time... :devilsmiley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I think the track is OK for NYC but the low pressure is just not explosive enough. 12z ECM only shows us getting .25" QPF because the mid levels and associated CCB don't develop until the storm passes into New England. This is a general problem with the models in that they develop the mid-levels too early.. That's part of it too, but what I'm saying is that in a typical storm, especially several days out, the models are gonna have trouble with the exact track and that exact track will matter a lot in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Yanks have the worst collapse of all time... :devilsmiley: for a series but not a pennant race...That goes to the 64 Phillies...Speaking of 1964 it has the coldest March 31st morning on record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Yanks have the worst collapse of all time... :devilsmiley: 2007 Mets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 for a series but not a pennant race...That goes to the 64 Phillies...Speaking of 1964 it has the coldest March 31st morning on record... Oh yeah, 1964 Phillies, talk about.. :axe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 See you next year. I'll be in New Paltz getting more snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 2007 Mets yes that was terrible, but 1964 Phillies is much worse... 6.5 games ahead with a WEEK left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Guess what storm this was from. Tonight: Snow and widespread blowing snow before 5am, then areas of blowing snow and a chance of snow after 5am. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Low around 20. Wind chill values as low as -1. Very windy, with a north wind between 33 and 40 mph, with gusts as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJO812 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 DEC 2010: I got 26.5".... 25 inches here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I average them all out got 24-26" so, whatever, but it was the best storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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