A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It probably won't be another 10 days until we can legitimately get an air mass into the NYC metro that will support snow (say Feb. 13 - 22 = no snow). So, we will have the last week or so of Feb. and two weeks into March to make a run. The pattern has collapsed unfortunately; I think it will be tough to get another 6-10 more inches in the NYC area, but I hope that I am dead wrong. It can snow and stick well here up until April 10.... that's my cut off point lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Or the 2004 Yankees.... That was the reason I wanted Cashman to get the boot and bring Gene Michael back. That debacle would never have happened if Andy hadnt left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I agree 100%. Like I said in another thread I'd like to break 95-96 totals in my area in four shots. 2 more decent/respectable events before February is out and two in March which would basically mirror how 95-96 wrapped up anyway. The April snow southern areas saw in April 1996 would also be a nice treat if just further north this time but that would be just a big bonus. Per Ray's page, something like this distribution would be great with the February dates obviously coming in the last two weeks of the month and maybe the March dates a little more spread out (i.e. one real biggie early on and one around St. Patty's or something like that) this time around: Snow storm, February 2-3, 1996 Snow storm, February 16-17, 1996 Snow storm, March 2, 1996 Snow and ice storm, March 7-8, 1996 Snow storm, April 9-10, 1996 Huh? Everyone saw big snows in April 1996 (except NYC and its UHI... even JFK got 5".) Long Island saw 6-12+ and it went right up into New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 That would be right up there with the '51 Dodgers... and the '78 Red Sox. Deep to Left...Yastrzemski... will not get it.... aaaah to hear Bill white's voice.... Bucky is the reason I play SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 what the hell happen to winter? this week has been ugly...rain and warm temps.....snowpack is a day or two away in the upper 40's from going bye bye......prob peak around 25 inches here...pretty cool. I miss it.....i hope we get one more storm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'll tell you what happened, remember the chicago blizzard? Ever since then our winter has gone down the crapper. If you ask me, that was the pattern changing storm. Now we're just hoping winter comes back for a grand finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'll tell you what happened, remember the chicago blizzard? Ever since then our winter has gone down the crapper. If you ask me, that was the pattern changing storm. Now we're just hoping winter comes back for a grand finale I cant wait for the person to post"Just be happy with what you got, you had a epic amount of snow" okay great, how dare i expect winter conditions in febuary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I cant wait for the person to post"Just be happy with what you got, you had a epic amount of snow" okay great, how dare i expect winter conditions in febuary.... LOL....that's the truth. Hey, you never know maybe we can get a surprise to pop up somewhere. Models have sucked this year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I cant wait for the person to post"Just be happy with what you got, you had a epic amount of snow" okay great, how dare i expect winter conditions in febuary.... You know what that sounds like to me? A guy who got robbed after he won 10 mil in the lottery. "Just be happy that you won the money." Nevermind that it all got taken away lol. Yeah, but where's the solace when it's all gone and it's still the middle of winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 People really shouldn't be complaining. In a typical La Nina winter, we'd be lucky to get 15-20" let alone 50"+. I'm also not counting out future snow events because I do feel we'll have a couple more threats, winter isn't over just yet. We've also had snow cover since late December. Normally we'd be lucky to last a week or two with snow cover, let alone a month and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Huh? Everyone saw big snows in April 1996 (except NYC and its UHI... even JFK got 5".) Long Island saw 6-12+ and it went right up into New England. Like my 1" on grassy surfaces? I don't consider that a big snowfall, even in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 People really shouldn't be complaining. In a typical La Nina winter, we'd be lucky to get 15-20" let alone 50"+. I'm also not counting out future snow events because I do feel we'll have a couple more threats, winter isn't over just yet. We've also had snow cover since late December. Normally we'd be lucky to last a week or two with snow cover, let alone a month and a half. My Xmas decorations are still buried on my front yard from 12/26. It has been a great run. Still plenty of time to go, I can see 2 more decent storms, I hope anyways.. We are always good for one in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Like my 1" on grassy surfaces? I don't consider that a big snowfall, even in April. Why did you guys end up in the screw zone? I know in NYC was generally attributed to UHI because JFK got 5" and the snowfall rates looked pretty high during the 1996 Yankee home opener (my favorite home opener of all time-- I'll always remember Andy for that game and the one he pitched in the WS against the Braves when he beat Smoltz 1-0).... the visibility was near 0 at times and the snow just got heavier at night. I know Central Jersey got 6-8 inches also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 People really shouldn't be complaining. In a typical La Nina winter, we'd be lucky to get 15-20" let alone 50"+. I'm also not counting out future snow events because I do feel we'll have a couple more threats, winter isn't over just yet. We've also had snow cover since late December. Normally we'd be lucky to last a week or two with snow cover, let alone a month and a half. It has nothing to do with la nina and everything to do with nao though. Its been shown that some of our snowiest and coldest winters have been la ninas. I welcome them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Why did you guys end up in the screw zone? I know in NYC was generally attributed to UHI because JFK got 5" and the snowfall rates looked pretty high during the 1996 Yankee home opener (my favorite home opener of all time-- I'll always remember Andy for that game and the one he pitched in the WS against the Braves when he beat Smoltz 1-0).... the visibility was near 0 at times and the snow just got heavier at night. I know Central Jersey got 6-8 inches also. I don't remember exactly what happened. I was pretty young, I hadn't quite turned 13. All I remember is that it was snowing pretty good and never really sticking and I saw WSWs all over the place, but we never got any decent snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It probably won't be another 10 days until we can legitimately get an air mass into the NYC metro that will support snow (say Feb. 13 - 22 = no snow). So, we will have the last week or so of Feb. and two weeks into March to make a run. The pattern has collapsed unfortunately; I think it will be tough to get another 6-10 more inches in the NYC area, but I hope that I am dead wrong. Music to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Huh? Everyone saw big snows in April 1996 (except NYC and its UHI... even JFK got 5".) Long Island saw 6-12+ and it went right up into New England. You are right. I should have specified NYC and the immediate counties surrounding NYC in New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 You are right. I should have specified NYC and the immediate counties surrounding NYC in New Jersey. It should have been more though-- that storm screwed that area, it was under a WSW and should have had more snow. It was cold that morning when I woke up, there was heavy frost and temps were in the 20s. I knew something big was coming-- we had the ideal combo of a clear night and light winds with excellent radiational cooling and the clouds came in quickly around 8-9 AM. It was supposed to start as a mix but started and stayed all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It should have been more though-- that storm screwed that area, it was under a WSW and should have had more snow. It was cold that morning when I woke up, there was heavy frost and temps were in the 20s. I knew something big was coming-- we had the ideal combo of a clear night and light winds with excellent radiational cooling and the clouds came in quickly around 8-9 AM. It was supposed to start as a mix but started and stayed all snow. Oh I remember it well. It was the one and only time in my life I was tired of the snow. I remember shoveling my 6-8 inches that day as I was in SE Monmouth back then. My dad and I just were battered and beaten by the 95-96 winter at that point and that April storm was the straw that broke the camel's back for he and I. We just looked at each other and shook our heads. I will never forget that moment because I haven't had a sick and tired feeling about snow like that before or since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParsippanyWX Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Man I was hoping for a fun week of storm analyzing and model hugging! LOL. You see I'm between jobs right now and it would have been the perfect time to devote hours upon hours including all-nighters following model run after model runs and the back n forth on here with you guys. Oh well. It looked great last week with two possible storms this week to occupy my time. Not bitter casting at all mind you, just saying that I thought I had it all set-up for a heavy dose of AmericanWX! It's an addiction I guess. I let the cat out of the bag too soon when I told my wife I was planning on spending the entire week hugging "European Models" and possibly even some short range ones..................she was perplexed to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I miss last February At this time last year, we were tracking a big snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wow, you can tell that there is nothing going on just by looking at this board...........Fair weather is overated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Wow, you can tell that there is nothing going on just by looking at this board...........Fair weather is overated Fair weather is the biggest challenge for any weather weenie/hobbiest. By that I mean, it's a challenge to get through for another chance at . Ultimately though, that might not reasonably happen again till next winter. Then again, hopes for winter storms become hopes for severe thunderstorms and given the propensities of our climate as of late, that also might kick off with a bang in a few months. I'd rather have a lull now and eek out a few weeks of winter easing its way into spring before things crank up again toward another extreme. We might actually get to experience the transition between seasons, for once. It seems lately that its been an on/off switch when things abruptly shift from winter to spring, as it did last year, almost skipping spring and heading right into summer after last year's February, we were in the 70's in March, and cracked 90 in April. I welcome the extremes as much as anyone else, but the fair weather days with temps not too cold, and not too warm (which we'll probably see most of next week) are welcome in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Fair weather is the biggest challenge for any weather weenie/hobbiest. By that I mean, it's a challenge to get through for another chance at . Ultimately though, that might not reasonably happen again till next winter. Then again, hopes for winter storms become hopes for severe thunderstorms and given the propensities of our climate as of late, that also might kick off with a bang in a few months. I'd rather have a lull now and eek out a few weeks of winter easing its way into spring before things crank up again toward another extreme. We might actually get to experience the transition between seasons, for once. It seems lately that its been an on/off switch when things abruptly shift from winter to spring, as it did last year, almost skipping spring and heading right into summer after last year's February, we were in the 70's in March, and cracked 90 in April. I welcome the extremes as much as anyone else, but the fair weather days with temps not too cold, and not too warm (which we'll probably see most of next week) are welcome in my book. All true. Only part I might question is the "slow" transition from winter to summer. That never really does ever seem to happen does it? It really seems like we get the end of winter and BANG it's so hot I can't stand it. I have a hard time remembering when out last true spring was, seriously. I suppose it's because the SST's out here usually keep us much cooler when inland areas are really seeing the torch. The only real fear that I have is that this massive blocking pattern gets re-established just in time to give us a long, cold, wet period leading up to summer. I do think that we will have the opportunity to see at least one more winter event before the season is over. This may be the year where we see that april snow again finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 This is something some central states POSSIBLY experienced this morning, pretty freakin awesome. Saw this looking through the central thread. http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/hazards/quake/quake-cryoseism.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Very possible...but I would have figured we would have heard a mention or two about some storm before that regardless of his location...people like to tell stories, especially those climo gurus like us. And I never heard any from him before the last 30-40 years...so I assume he is not 80 years old. But perhaps I am mistaken...I already said I could be...just an educated guess on my part, that's all. Well, I'm 5 days late and a dollar short to this topic, but William's avatar is the late Chief Justice of the Supreme court, William Rehnquist. Our William may have been on the advisory panel that recommended nominating Rehnquist for his appointment to the supreme court back in '72...or was it William Howard Taft that he recommended??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Well, I'm 5 days late and a dollar short to this topic, but William's avatar is the late Chief Justice of the Supreme court, William Rehnquist. Our William may have been on the advisory panel that recommended nominating Rehnquist for his appointment to the supreme court back in '72...or was it William Howard Taft that he recommended??? I can tell you with 100% certainty the photo is not of William Rehnquist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Here is a photo of William Rehnquist...for sake of comparison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I can tell you with 100% certainty the photo is not of William Rehnquist... Well, he looks nothing like John Roberts. So...you do not deny that you were on the nominating committee. Ahh ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Well, he looks nothing like John Roberts. So...you do not deny that you were on the nominating committee. Ahh ha! Not unlike Walter Jameson...I've always been here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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