Uniblab Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 looks like Nova Scotia is getting hit now....http://www.cs.dal.ca/multimedia/cam/management-stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 That BS about NYC not getting more than 6 inches for the Jan. 26 storm...IT WASN'T ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We still have 20" on the ground with a bit of a crust over it. I'm not sure how much rain runs off, soaks through, or soaks into the pack, but the rainfalls we've had don't seem to be making much dent in the snow depth. Todays rainfall (mostly ice, but we did get up to 34 with plain rain) has definitely softened things up a bit. I have a well packed path where I walk out over the lawn to take measurements. For the first time this evening, I postholed on one part of the path. I used a cocorahs gage (the 4"" outer part) to take a sample and when it melts I'll post the SWE. You can see the various layers where I took the core sample (unfortunately, the core itself is mashed into a large sauce pot...the rain gage wasn't long enough to do it in one swipe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My snowpack basically looks the same but with a .25 inch crust of ice over it. Hopefully we can all add some to what we have this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66ChevelleMom Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I like the fact that I got to experience this first hand with our last snow storm!! http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/cantore-surprised-by-thunder-snow-19541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 We still have 20" on the ground with a bit of a crust over it. I'm not sure how much rain runs off, soaks through, or soaks into the pack, but the rainfalls we've had don't seem to be making much dent in the snow depth. Todays rainfall (mostly ice, but we did get up to 34 with plain rain) has definitely softened things up a bit. I have a well packed path where I walk out over the lawn to take measurements. For the first time this evening, I postholed on one part of the path. I used a cocorahs gage (the 4"" outer part) to take a sample and when it melts I'll post the SWE. You can see the various layers where I took the core sample (unfortunately, the core itself is mashed into a large sauce pot...the rain gage wasn't long enough to do it in one swipe). 5.47" It melted too slow and I put it on the stove to speed the process up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I have to say that if the storm being depicted for next week comes to fruition, it would be remarkable how the sensible weather repeated itself even if patterns were different. Leading up to 1/26 we first had a snow to ice to rain event, a quick 4 inch hitter, a fresh supply of arctic air dropping into the region and then BOOM the 1/26 storm. So yesterday and Tuesday we had the icy mess storm, this weekend would be the quick four incher maybe for different areas than the last one before 1/26 but basically the same idea, a fresh supply of arctic air dropping into the area and then BOOM another potential MECS or dare I say another potential HECS follows the cold air punch. WHAT A WINTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I remember some discussion years ago, probably more than 10 yrs ago, and I was wondering if someone knows anything about this. From what I can recall, there is a point where ocean temps can cool enough that it has less of a warming effect on coastal areas during storms. I'm aware of other factors like storm track,wind direction,etc.... but I remember some talk back then (jeeez that makes me sound old) about this. Does anyone know if there is any validity to this, and if so, what that might be? I always thought somewhere below 40F. Obviously, if the ocean was frozen it would matter less also, but I think we'd be preparing for the apocalypse if that were to happen. I'm just curious about this information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I remember some discussion years ago, probably more than 10 yrs ago, and I was wondering if someone knows anything about this. From what I can recall, there is a point where ocean temps can cool enough that it has less of a warming effect on coastal areas during storms. I'm aware of other factors like storm track,wind direction,etc.... but I remember some talk back then (jeeez that makes me sound old) about this. Does anyone know if there is any validity to this, and if so, what that might be? I always thought somewhere below 40F. Obviously, if the ocean was frozen it would matter less also, but I think we'd be preparing for the apocalypse if that were to happen. I'm just curious about this information. It really isn't the SST's just off shore it is the gulf stream further to the east that is the key. I really don't think there is an optimal temperature for it to be but the bottom line for us will always be regardless of ocean temps, WAA from the tracking low whether it be a primary or a coastal and the conditions to our North (i.e. High Pressure strength, positioning and staying power due to the blocking if any downstream). The last storm was a fine example of what happens when a low tries to cut to the eastern lakes but strong Canadian high pressure is making it's way into the region from the northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It really isn't the SST's just off shore it is the gulf stream further to the east that is the key. I really don't think there is an optimal temperature for it to be but the bottom line for us will always be regardless of ocean temps, WAA from the tracking low whether it be a primary or a coastal and the conditions to our North (i.e. High Pressure strength, positioning and staying power due to the blocking if any downstream). The last storm was a fine example of what happens when a low tries to cut to the eastern lakes but strong Canadian high pressure is making it's way into the region from the northwest. I know, I'm aware of all of this. The discussion may have actually been about the gulf stream now that I think about it. I just remember someone having a set number, granted this was some years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 What is that big orange ball of light coming from outside? blue skies? temps over 40? It must just be a dream.. It feels like an old fashioned thaw outside.. You can almost hear the snow melting, birds are chirping.. It feels like an early spring.. Will winter make it's appearance again until official spring comings in 6 weeks.. I have to say, it does feel refreshing outside.. Perhaps we can get a few more storms in the next few weeks and then a nice spring.. however, the nice spring i highly doubt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Figured I'd be posting something novel here til I saw the recent posts. For all the talk of ice-encased snowpack taking forever to melt, I lost a considerable amount of mine over the last 24 hours. All anecdotal here I know, but lots peeks of lawn around, and the untouched areas look like they're down to 4" or so. As we know, in the past few weeks we've had some relatively mild days, but all were dreary. Today is the first 40+ day I can recall where the wind is fairly calm and the sun is shining. Feels like the slightest bit of spring. Now, I want snow this week as much as the next person here, but it's still something to look forward to, especially after looking at grey/black snowpiles for the past week. Makes me wonder if I grew up in Syracuse if I'd like snow at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 What is that big orange ball of light coming from outside? blue skies? temps over 40? It must just be a dream.. It feels like an old fashioned thaw outside.. You can almost hear the snow melting, birds are chirping.. It feels like an early spring.. Will winter make it's appearance again until official spring comings in 6 weeks.. I have to say, it does feel refreshing outside.. Perhaps we can get a few more storms in the next few weeks and then a nice spring.. however, the nice spring i highly doubt.. I want a repeat of last summer Awesomeness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 It really isn't the SST's just off shore it is the gulf stream further to the east that is the key. I really don't think there is an optimal temperature for it to be but the bottom line for us will always be regardless of ocean temps, WAA from the tracking low whether it be a primary or a coastal and the conditions to our North (i.e. High Pressure strength, positioning and staying power due to the blocking if any downstream). The last storm was a fine example of what happens when a low tries to cut to the eastern lakes but strong Canadian high pressure is making it's way into the region from the northwest. There actually is for certain storms and wind directions, but its a fine line. If the SST are abnormally cold, you can have a snowstorm on an east wind, because that doesnt really go over the gulf stream. What you dont want are S or SE winds. Hell, last year we had a blizzard on southerly winds, so there are always exceptions to the rule, but in general a colder SST at least delays any mixing or changeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazman Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Boy..today's 40F feels like 60F. Funny seeing all the procrastinators finally digging out their cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Temperature forecast was way off for today. We are torching into the Mid-40's right now. Snowpack getting annihilated. If it continues we may hit 50 before sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Temperature forecast was way off for today. We are torching into the Mid-40's right now. Snowpack getting annihilated. If it continues we may hit 50 before sunset. I went outside and I was kind of shocked the snow is so hard and crusty. Maybe its because Im at the bottom of the snowpack lol. How much snowcover do you have? Im down to 5 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The sun angle is becoming a bit more obvious today...I felt warm being outside. I can almost smell spring...baseball..summers...the pool..and a few beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The sun angle is becoming a bit more obvious today...I felt warm being outside. I can almost smell spring...baseball..summers...the pool..and a few beers. I want to see your thermometer hit 130 this summer, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zir0b Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The sun angle is becoming a bit more obvious today...I felt warm being outside. I can almost smell spring...baseball..summers...the pool..and a few beers. wow, 9 am and we're already up to 78/73 here. Incredibly humid outside. Looks like most of the cloud debris coming from Western PA is going to miss us....wonder if the SPC will upgrade the area to 30% wind? Latest RUC has CAPE values exceeding 3000 j/kg later this afternoon...things could get interesting. Any idea what the SPC-WRF is showing, earthlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Too warm for me. Come back winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 wow, 9 am and we're already up to 78/73 here. Incredibly humid outside. Looks like most of the cloud debris coming from Western PA is going to miss us....wonder if the SPC will upgrade the area to 30% wind? Latest RUC has CAPE values exceeding 3000 j/kg later this afternoon...things could get interesting. Any idea what the SPC-WRF is showing, earthlight? Personally, I love those west to northwesterly downsloping winds in July and August when we get to 90 even after a "cold" frontal passage haha. LOL that's what would have happened with this set up, if it was summer time. We would have had strong to severe thunderstorms last night and 90+ on downsloping winds today. Just take whatever temp you have right now and double it. So it would be 92 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I checked all the houses on my block and there is NO SNOW COVER on any of their roofs. Basically, all the snowcover we have left is either in snowpiles on the edges of the sidewalks or in backyards sheltered from sunlight and even there its just a few inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zir0b Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I checked all the houses on my block and there is NO SNOW COVER on any of their roofs. Basically, all the snowcover we have left is either in snowpiles on the edges of the sidewalks or in backyards sheltered from sunlight and even there its just a few inches. might be almost gone by tomorrow. Another day of 40's with strong sun is almost guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I checked all the houses on my block and there is NO SNOW COVER on any of their roofs. Basically, all the snowcover we have left is either in snowpiles on the edges of the sidewalks or in backyards sheltered from sunlight and even there its just a few inches. Are you serious?? I have like 10 inches average depth easy maybe more. Sheltered areas are more than that. How did your snow get eaten that fast? Btw JMA has a bomb off the coast for Tuesday about an inch precip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 wow, 9 am and we're already up to 78/73 here. Incredibly humid outside. Looks like most of the cloud debris coming from Western PA is going to miss us....wonder if the SPC will upgrade the area to 30% wind? Latest RUC has CAPE values exceeding 3000 j/kg later this afternoon...things could get interesting. Any idea what the SPC-WRF is showing, earthlight? Oh my god don't do that to me man...is there a 1:00 Yankee game on too? Bring it on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Personally, I love those west to northwesterly downsloping winds in July and August when we get to 90 even after a "cold" frontal passage haha. LOL that's what would have happened with this set up, if it was summer time. We would have had strong to severe thunderstorms last night and 90+ on downsloping winds today. Just take whatever temp you have right now and double it. So it would be 92 for me. The July heat wave last summer was one of the most awesome weather events ever...arizona like heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Oh my god don't do that to me man...is there a 1:00 Yankee game on too? Bring it on!!! Yankee game by the pool in the middle of a heat wave-- that's what summer should be all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazess556 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The July heat wave last summer was one of the most awesome weather events ever...arizona like heat I missed it. I was in Italy. 3 straight 100 deg days. That is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The July heat wave last summer was one of the most awesome weather events ever...arizona like heat Sure was, and almost a repeat in early September. You, me and Forky had fun with all the people who thought "it cant get hot in September." The funny thing was, they were using the same sun angle argument people use to say it cant snow and stick during the day in March and April lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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