tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Wow, imagine 15:1 on those number. honestly, i dont see why not? Today a lot of the ratios were around 15-1 and tomorrow looks to be colder than today, but for around always assume 10-1 and hope for better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 hey Tombo, how about Sandy Hook? Thanks! do they have an airport code? Belmar is right by there, thats what i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 new GEM at 12Z Sat. Snow overspreading SE PA just after daybreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 hr 24, 10 mm line to phl now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 0.20" contour SE PA through southern half of NJ by 00z Sun 0.40"+ in southern Jersey Potentially still snowing at 00z over those areas too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Sorry Ray, I missed it. What was your call? I was thinking 1-2 around TTN, being very concerned about the cut-off the NAM showed in the QPF. Going strictly off the new NAM would argue 3-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbanknjandbigbasslakepa Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 do they have an airport code? Belmar is right by there, thats what i have. k56n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 k56n .31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 0.20" contour SE PA through southern half of NJ by 00z Sun 0.40"+ in southern Jersey Potentially still snowing at 00z over those areas too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 honestly, i dont see why not? Today a lot of the ratios were around 15-1 and tomorrow looks to be colder than today, but for around always assume 10-1 and hope for better. Yeah, we saw over 18:1 ratios here with this morning's snow, so it's certainly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Those places where skies have cleared out are radiating pretty quickly... some places (like TTN) may reach their coldest temps of the season thus far in the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Latest NAM has 0.31" of liquid for NW Chesco....will see if ratios are as healthy as they were this morning....if those numbers are right could be a 4-5" snow NW Philly burbs Today High 30.5 Low 17.8 (current) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Those places where skies have cleared out are radiating pretty quickly... some places (like TTN) may reach their coldest temps of the season thus far in the next few hours. just came in from a cigar walk in the poconos....its 12.....stars are out big time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Wow.. this is gonna catch a lot of people by surprise tomorrow.. This looks like a solid 4-7" event for the coastal areas. people thought I was nuts when I told them today..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbanknjandbigbasslakepa Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 thanks tom. and you can see the big dfference between sndy hook and belmar. .54 vs .31......thedifference in many of these storms can be pretty large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Those places where skies have cleared out are radiating pretty quickly... some places (like TTN) may reach their coldest temps of the season thus far in the next few hours. down to 21.4° here from a high of 36.3° this afternoon. The number to beat is 17.7°. I don't think we do it but we could certainly get close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I don't know how accurate my DVV is with measuring small precip amounts, but I have 0.08" today, which would mean 20:1 ratios with this morning's burst of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Agree with others NAM/RGEM looking more like 3-6 instead of 2-4 and even higher in S Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I don't know how accurate my DVV is with measuring small precip amounts, but I have 0.08" today, which would mean 20:1 ratios with this morning's burst of snow. has it all completely melted? Mine for the day is .06, but its on the roof so im not sure its all melted or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'm sitting at 16 here. Peaked at 33 around midday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 0z nam clown map, looks like a 3-8 inch snowfall region wide, basic agreement with the rgem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 just came in from a cigar walk in the poconos....its 12.....stars are out big time..... 15 here, so maybe single digits tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Pretty sure he meant where on the page, since it's not obvious. Start from the home page: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/phi/ and then click on the link for "storm total snow forecast available " which is located about an inch above the map of the region. And maybe because this is a government run operation, the link to stuff like this is different on every office's homepage: for example, the NYC office has a link named "storm total forecast" which is located just below and to the right of the region map. Would love to see some better standardization of the NWS office websites - same thing in finding many other things, like snowfall reports, weather records, climate info, etc. Just to address this a little bit. The storm total snow graphic is not required however more and more NWS Offices are placing them on their homepage as users are liking it (my office tried it last year for the first time and the users really liked it). One thing we changed for this year is to include the created date/time stamp on it. Regarding the standardizing of the NWS Office homepages, this is being currently worked on especially in Eastern Region. The pages have been improved, but more work needs to be done and there are NWS folks working on this at this time. Users should be able to go from one NWS homepage to another and get the same information from the same spot. That is the goal. Okay, back to the snowfall chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 clouds have rolled in here sitting at 26....gfs coming in a good bit wetter than 18z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 here is the color rgem map for those who can't read the b/w maps that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I don't know how accurate my DVV is with measuring small precip amounts, but I have 0.08" today, which would mean 20:1 ratios with this morning's burst of snow. Is it heated? If its heated, then there was probably some evaporation which reduced the liquid. If its not heated, did it all melt on its own? Automated rain gauges do great with liquid, but very few do well with frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Probably_Maybe_No Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 clouds have rolled in here sitting at 26....gfs coming in a good bit wetter than 18z. drier than nam for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 drier than nam for sure Wouldn't look at GFS for precip amounts 18 hours before the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 drier than nam for sure agree..0GFS takes the .15 qph line up to around Edison, NJ In the past I would hear trim the NAM precip totals by 30-40% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 agree..0GFS takes the .15 qph line up to around Edison, NJ In the past I would hear trim the NAM precip totals by 30-40% i think tony or some other met has said the gfs qpf within 36hrs has been bad...let me see if i can find it. can't find it..mesoscale models would be what you turn to right now...i do agree the nam may be a little to wet, but with these inverted trof setups, you never know. Tell that to waterbury,ct who got 18 inches today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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