snowman21 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Some of the totals around fairfield cty are amazing. pics coming in from the sne thread are unbelievable, an inverted trough that wont soon be forgotten. almost 4 inches here but places like upper greenwich new canaan norwalk wilton ridgefield and shelton just got pasted! Amazing day. Yeah I'm guessing a lot of the numbers from coastal towns are from more inland locations. Near the water it was warm enough where snow didn't accumulate very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I have to give it to NYNJPAWeather.. While he was a bit bullish w/ the snow overall- he had the right idea.. I think he knew the isolated nature of the large totals, but didn't depict it in his snow chart as well as he verbally outlined it in his video.. There was a bullet area of up to 12" of snow - just further north of where he depicted it to be... This storm was a 2-4" event region wide, w/ isolated amounts of 8"+ Unfortunately areas, right on the coast were in the total screw zone.. that was it... Long Island kinda got screwed over.. But it appears that points west, north and Northeast of NYC did fairly well... Interesting event to say the least, but most of all, as everyone said, very difficult to predict.. jeff Some areas in SE PA I think exceeded his expectations but he did have the idea correct and even mentioned in the video that only a small portion of the 6-12 area was going to get hit as hard as they did and that not everyone was seeing 6+, it was more or less a best chance zone given the forecast for this event was highly volatile...he's been very good this year overall, better than last winter when I know he got ripped on after the 2/5 event but honestly even I and many other mets thought for awhile that night based on the radar trends for around 1-2 hours that the 2-4 inch forecasts for NYC were going to severely bust on the low side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I have to give it to NYNJPAWeather.. While he was a bit bullish w/ the snow overall- he had the right idea.. I think he knew the isolated nature of the large totals, but didn't depict it in his snow chart as well as he verbally outlined it in his video.. There was a bullet area of up to 12" of snow - just further north of where he depicted it to be... This storm was a 2-4" event region wide, w/ isolated amounts of 8"+ Unfortunately areas, right on the coast were in the total screw zone.. that was it... Long Island kinda got screwed over.. But it appears that points west, north and Northeast of NYC did fairly well... Interesting event to say the least, but most of all, as everyone said, very difficult to predict.. jeff Don't agree at all. When a forecaster makes a bold call against most models and then the situation plays out as expected, he doesn't deserve kudos. Those who questioned the reliability of his forecast had the right idea in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What others mention all the time on this board is that - all it takes in the winter time is a little lattitude and elevation... It's amazing, how well, Rockland, Northern Westchester, Putnam and Interior SE CT do in these types of events w/ marginal temps.. They are still close to NYC- but it's a whole other world up there when it comes to snow... jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I have to give it to NYNJPAWeather.. While he was a bit bullish w/ the snow overall- he had the right idea.. I think he knew the isolated nature of the large totals, but didn't depict it in his snow chart as well as he verbally outlined it in his video.. There was a bullet area of up to 12" of snow - just further north of where he depicted it to be... This storm was a 2-4" event region wide, w/ isolated amounts of 8"+ Unfortunately areas, right on the coast were in the total screw zone.. that was it... Long Island kinda got screwed over.. But it appears that points west, north and Northeast of NYC did fairly well... Interesting event to say the least, but most of all, as everyone said, very difficult to predict.. jeff Uh... http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&msid=212446941656899356005.0004991e0f794c08ecde7&ll=40.655639,-74.190674&spn=3.975174,7.03125&z=7&source=embed Totally wrong on Long Island (6-12", got less than 2" in most places from the sounds of it). His area of 4-8" extended way too far south in Hudson/Essex/NYC... his 3-6" was pretty spot on, and most locations in his 2-4" didn't even reach 2". I wouldn't go and make a post completely calling him out otherwise, but you saying he hit it spot on is atrociously wrong. Certain aspects were on point (the general 3-6" that most people had) but yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 8.5 inches for a storm total in Danbury. not sure if it was mentioned in this thread, but there were MASSIVE delays in the region. people were trying to drive their normal rush hour commute during 2"/hr snowfall rates and near zero visibility. numerous cars were stranded and abandoned in Danbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What others mention all the time on this board is that - all it takes in the winter time is a little lattitude and elevation... It's amazing, how well, Rockland, Northern Westchester, Putnam and Interior SE CT do in these types of events w/ marginal temps.. They are still close to NYC- but it's a whole other world up there when it comes to snow... jeff Yeah, I average close to 40"/season at 350' in Southern Westchester. It really is a whole different world up here on many events, although we often don't get as much from the biggest coastals as KNYC/KJFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What others mention all the time on this board is that - all it takes in the winter time is a little lattitude and elevation... It's amazing, how well, Rockland, Northern Westchester, Putnam and Interior SE CT do in these types of events w/ marginal temps.. They are still close to NYC- but it's a whole other world up there when it comes to snow... jeff I was between 31F and 32F all day up in Putnam at very low elevation. A combination of distance from ocean and precip intensity made this work. 5-6" accumulation around here according to public statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Don't agree at all. When a forecaster makes a bold call against most models and then the situation plays out as expected, he doesn't deserve kudos. Those who questioned the reliability of his forecast had the right idea in my opinion. Like, I said, I think he had the right idea, VERBALLY, but failed to portray it in his map.. Look, we all know he's rather bullish w/ snow.. But then there are some who are way to conservative- ALL the time.. I think he's great at explaining events and makes it exciting.. Is he right every time? No he's not- nor is any meteorologist. jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Uh... http://maps.google.c...=7&source=embed Totally wrong on Long Island (6-12", got less than 2" in most places from the sounds of it). His area of 4-8" extended way too far south in Hudson/Essex/NYC... his 3-6" was pretty spot on, and most locations in his 2-4" didn't even reach 2". I wouldn't go and make a post completely calling him out otherwise, but you saying he hit it spot on is atrociously wrong. Certain aspects were on point (the general 3-6" that most people had) but yeah... where did I say he hit it SPOT on?? In fact, i said the complete opposite.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Not a bad guess...I measured 2.5" and probably someone on the Island got around 3 or so... Excellent call. Strange event with the breaks of sun between bands, mixed precip in spots, and showery-like precip. Whats your take on tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Like, I said, I think he had the right idea, VERBALLY, but failed to portray it in his map.. Look, we all know he's rather bullish w/ snow.. But then there are some who are way to conservative- ALL the time.. I think he's great at explaining events and makes it exciting.. Is he right every time? No he's not- nor is any meteorologist. jeff. He didn't say anything novel in his forecast besides that this was a mesoscale driven event, which is partially true and obvious. Beyond that he wrongly disregarded the model consensus and targeting the LI sound area for the heaviest snow and neglected the Catskills, mid-Hudson valley, and NW CT. The meat of his forecast was the snowfall distribution and amounts, both of which he erred fairly significantly with. I admit I had a beef with him in the past (if he's who I think he is). But I honestly believe he gives good forecasters in the business a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 He didn't say anything novel in his forecast besides that this was a mesoscale driven event, which is partially true and obvious. Beyond that he wrongly disregarded the model consensus and targeting the LI sound area for the heaviest snow and neglected the Catskills, mid-Hudson valley, and NW CT. The meat of his forecast was the snowfall distribution and amounts, both of which he erred fairly significantly with. I admit I had a beef with him in the past (if he's who I think he is). But I honestly believe he gives good forecasters in the business a bad name. well we're all entitled to our own opinions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thank you. Lots of possibillities...however, will await 0z suite before offering any #'s. Good idea. It would be nice to see a concensus at 0z considering how close we are to the possible event! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 How much did you get Alpha5? Do you believe five inches for Greenwich? I've got about two or three here on the Sound and that was the same in Port Chester. I reported that I have 6.5" I think there is a large difference in accumulations in town because of temperatures. LIke Long Island, places south of 95 and in town saw less snow due to marginal temps, while places in backcountry, where I live, did much better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cut Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I would say 7 here in Trumbull, and my father in lay says about 10 in Monroe. He is up on a hill and always tends to get an extra inch or two from me here in trumbull. I think the official 2 inches in Bridgeport is bunk, of course they measure at Sikorsky Airport in Stratford, way out in the salt marsh right on the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I reported that I have 6.5" I think there is a large difference in accumulations in town because of temperatures. LIke Long Island, places south of 95 and in town saw less snow due to marginal temps, while places in backcountry, where I live, did much better off. What is your elevation dude? It seems like you and I are sort of in the same boat, sneakily snowy areas surrounded by areas that average a bit less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What is your elevation dude? It seems like you and I are sort of in the same boat, sneakily snowy areas surrounded by areas that average a bit less... Somewhere between 300 and 400. The town's topography maps are vague..... It seems like places on the immediate shoreline in town saw around 2-3. While I was above freezing, I'm about 5+ miles from the sound and have some elevation. That helped to keep temps down just enough to ensure that when it snowed hard, it stuck. 6.5" was my final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Just under 3" of wet snow is my final total. No sticking issues ad no mixing issues. Temperature stayed around 31 or 32 and it snowed most of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Excellent call. Strange event with the breaks of sun between bands, mixed precip in spots, and showery-like precip. Whats your take on tomorrow? How much new snow fell in Wading River? I was going to Baiting Hollow this evening, but am waiting until tomorrow instead. Measured 2.4" in Smithtown, most of it in a short time from that last hurrah around 5PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I reported that I have 6.5" I think there is a large difference in accumulations in town because of temperatures. LIke Long Island, places south of 95 and in town saw less snow due to marginal temps, while places in backcountry, where I live, did much better off. It had little to do with the temperatures. Most of the precip on LI was very light, at least out this way. I think the south shore had some rain problems, but our snow accumulated, there just wasn't much more than an occasional dusting until this afternoon. We'd get a coating, then that would melt, then repeat the process all over until it got semi serious after lunch. I saw the sun for a few hours today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Final accumulation of 7.6" in Ridgefield, Ct. As Quincy mentioned, the Danbury area was an absolute mess commute-wise today... we had 4" in a roughly 1.5 hour period. My father drove from his office to our house, normally an 8 minute drive, and it took him close to an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 FreeRain, you are right around the 250' elevation contour, correct? Hi William, Yes, I'm around 230'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHSnow Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What town are you in FreeRain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 How much new snow fell in Wading River? I was going to Baiting Hollow this evening, but am waiting until tomorrow instead. Measured 2.4" in Smithtown, most of it in a short time from that last hurrah around 5PM. Just measured 2.25". I think we may have gotten a little more but it has compacted. Was just out shoveling the driveway - the snow is impressively heavy. Really nice looking night out there..wet snow stuck on all of the tree limbs, no wind, very quiet outside. Nice evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What town are you in FreeRain? I'm juuuuuust south of LH. I grew up in LH. How much did you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHSnow Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I was just shy of 3 inches - up by 25A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Glad you made it over to this board. Your observations from the northern part of the Nassau / Suffolk border will be very important again this winter. Recall the large snowfall differences between SW Nassau and NE Nassau during the 2008-09 winter that you documented... Glad to see you here. Yes, this area is usually one of the last to change over, when temps are marginal on LI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
March58 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I reported that I have 6.5" I think there is a large difference in accumulations in town because of temperatures. LIke Long Island, places south of 95 and in town saw less snow due to marginal temps, while places in backcountry, where I live, did much better off. 4" for me near Glenville in Greenwich.....seems like large differnces given relatively small distances but very believable with this storm. Seeing the report of 12" in New Fairfield is a WOW! for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I was just shy of 3 inches - up by 25A. How much did you get in LH during the blizzard? I estimated 16" here in N.Syosset, but with the wind I never really did get a good final measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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