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Upgraded to warnings in parts of CT though 6 to 9"

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

433 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

...SNOW EXPECTED INTO TONIGHT...

NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067-069-071>075-176>179-072245-

/O.CAN.KOKX.WW.Y.0001.000000T0000Z-110107T2200Z/

WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-

EASTERN UNION-ORANGE-ROCKLAND-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-

NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-

KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-

SOUTHERN NASSAU-

433 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS CANCELLED...

SNOW HAS ENDED...THEREFORE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON

HAS CANCELLED THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY.

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Some light snow just now redeveloping here...

Starting in wading river around the same time, and also stopped 15 minutes later. what a huge difference between here and Hauppauge this afternoon. I left Haupp at 3:15, it was 37 degrees and partly sunny with just wet surfaces everywhere. Once i got to exit 68 and turned north temp had dropped to 32 with about 2" on ground and fairly slick roads.

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gfs at hr 24 has light snow up to ewr....

Seems to be a battle between US and foreign models with tomorrow's event. GFS/Nam aren't enthused at all and don't get snow north of Belmar pretty much. Other models are more impressed and place NYC in moderate snow. This might be another nowcast event.

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The UKMET is quite impressive but doesn't have much precip. on the northwestern side of the low.

I have seen several storms in the past that despite their central pressures had very little in the way of precipitation/moisture because they were preceded by another event that robbed it. I wonder if this could be one of those scenarios.

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think parts of the south fork may also score over the next couple hours

That is a lot more transitory than what is going on in eastern New Haven County, especially the northern part. There are going to be some jackpot totals up there.

It is also possible, although I haven't looked at any obs, that there is some rain or mix or at least very wet snow over the south fork.

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Seems to be a battle between US and foreign models with tomorrow's event. GFS/Nam aren't enthused at all and don't get snow north of Belmar pretty much. Other models are more impressed and place NYC in moderate snow. This might be another nowcast event.

The GFS has been dropping the ball this winter so far in the short range while it has been rather good beyond that...the NAM has been the winner inside 24 hours on most of the events so I'd be heavily leaning towards whatever it shows in the next 24 hours and not the GFS...I stil don't think anyone sees a big snow right now outside of the Twin Forks and SE CT but there is potential if the 500 vort max can kick more north into LI.

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Drove 3 miles home from garden city to southern roslyn, so central central nassau to north central nassau and there was about twice as much snow...not saying much but maybe 1.5 tops...i guess the 3 miles north and extra 100 feet in elevation made the difference with the southerly wind...really interesting

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Measured 7.2" here in Ridgefield, Ct. Had a friend down the road measure 9", and he is usually conservative.

havent measured yet still at work.. but nearby southbury only 4 miles nw measured 7" an hour ago.. and the heaviest snow is jsut moving in now and should last for an hour or so... someone will get a foot on the new haven/fairfield county northern border

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Look at the Pittsburgh radar, the developing precipitation in that area is moving almost due north.

The GFS has been dropping the ball this winter so far in the short range while it has been rather good beyond that...the NAM has been the winner inside 24 hours on most of the events so I'd be heavily leaning towards whatever it shows in the next 24 hours and not the GFS...I stil don't think anyone sees a big snow right now outside of the Twin Forks and SE CT but there is potential if the 500 vort max can kick more north into LI.

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Jackpot SW CT

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS

SNOWFALL OF

/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...

DANBURY 8.3 515 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

STAMFORD 7.5 440 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

WILTON 7.5 530 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NEWTOWN 7.1 515 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

FAIRFIELD 5.7 515 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

GREENWICH 5.0 200 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NEW CANAAN 5.0 215 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NORWALK 5.0 520 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

WESTPORT 2.4 340 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

DARIEN 2.0 200 PM 1/07 CT DOT

BRIDGEPORT 2.0 430 PM 1/07 NWS COOP

...NEW HAVEN COUNTY...

SOUTHBURY 7.0 500 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

BRANFORD 4.0 510 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NEW JERSEY

...BERGEN COUNTY...

MAHWAH 6.0 230 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

BERGENFIELD 5.1 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

FAIR LAWN 5.0 325 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

RIDGEWOOD 5.0 100 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

RIVER EDGE 5.0 100 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

DUMONT 4.8 345 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

WYCKOFF 4.5 100 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

RAMSEY 4.5 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

RIVERVALE 4.3 315 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

ORADELL 4.2 100 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

GARFIELD 4.1 130 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

SADDLE BROOK 4.0 400 PM 1/07 COCORAHS

HARRINGTON PARK 3.8 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...ESSEX COUNTY...

CEDAR GROVE 3.7 130 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

MONTCLAIR 3.3 300 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

WEST ORANGE 3.2 330 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NEWARK AIRPORT 1.9 100 PM 1/07 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

...HUDSON COUNTY...

KEARNY 3.5 230 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

JERSEY CITY 2.7 230 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

HARRISON 2.5 200 PM 1/07 NWS COOP

...PASSAIC COUNTY...

RINGWOOD 5.0 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

WAYNE 4.3 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

WEST MILFORD 4.3 1205 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

HASKELL 4.0 100 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

WEST PATERSON 3.0 1100 AM 1/07 PUBLIC

...UNION COUNTY...

ROSELLE 3.9 1203 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

UNION 2.0 1042 AM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NEW YORK

...BRONX COUNTY...

PARKCHESTER 2.0 430 PM 1/07 NWS COOP

RIVERDALE 1.0 1100 AM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...KINGS (BROOKLYN) COUNTY...

BROOKLYN HEIGHTS 1.8 345 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...NASSAU COUNTY...

NORTH MASSAPEQUA 2.0 500 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

HICKSVILLE 1.6 415 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

JERICHO 1.4 415 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

...NEW YORK COUNTY...

CENTRAL PARK 1.7 400 PM 1/07 CENTRAL PARK ZOO

...ORANGE COUNTY...

CORNWALL ON HUDSON 5.2 400 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NEWBURGH 5.0 300 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

TUXEDO PARK 5.0 240 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NEW WINDSOR 5.0 430 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

HARRIMAN 4.5 430 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

MIDDLETOWN 4.4 400 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

GOSHEN 4.2 415 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

WARWICK 4.0 245 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

MONROE 3.2 1235 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

GREENWOOD LAKE 3.0 1145 AM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...PUTNAM COUNTY...

MAHOPAC 6.0 430 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...QUEENS COUNTY...

FLUSHING 2.0 245 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

WOODSIDE 1.3 300 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NYC/LA GUARDIA 1.0 100 PM 1/07 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

...RICHMOND COUNTY...

RICHMOND 1.5 115 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

SOUTH BEACH 1.0 500 PM 1/07 NWS EMPLOYEE

...ROCKLAND COUNTY...

TALLMAN 5.0 330 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NEW CITY 4.4 300 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NEW HEMPSTEAD 4.0 1215 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NYACK 2.5 240 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...

EAST NORTHPORT 2.5 500 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

ROCKY POINT 2.3 500 PM 1/07 SKYWARN SPOTTER

NORTH BABYLON 1.7 500 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

UPTON 1.3 400 PM 1/07 NWS OFFICE

PATCHOGUE 1.1 315 PM 1/07 NWS EMPLOYEE

EAST SETAUKET 1.0 345 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...

MOUNT KISCO 6.5 425 PM 1/07 TRAINED SPOTTER

ARMONK 6.2 320 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

CHAPPAQUA 6.0 400 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

PORT CHESTER 5.1 415 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

MOUNT VERNON 5.0 400 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

YONKERS 5.0 340 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

EASTCHESTER 5.0 355 PM 1/07 PUBLIC

NORTH WHITE PLAINS 2.9 325 PM 1/07 COCORAHS$SCALORA

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How much did you get Alpha5? Do you believe five inches for Greenwich?I've got about 2 or 3 here on the Sound.

Some of the totals around fairfield cty are amazing.

pics coming in from the sne thread are unbelievable, an inverted trough that wont soon be forgotten.

almost 4 inches here but places like upper greenwich new canaan norwalk wilton ridgefield and shelton just got pasted!

Amazing day.

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I have to give it to NYNJPAWeather.. While he was a bit bullish w/ the snow overall- he had the right idea.. I think he knew the isolated nature of the large totals, but didn't depict it in his snow chart as well as he verbally outlined it in his video.. There was a bullet area of up to 12" of snow - just further north of where he depicted it to be... This storm was a 2-4" event region wide, w/ isolated amounts of 8"+ Unfortunately areas, right on the coast were in the total screw zone..

that was it... Long Island kinda got screwed over.. But it appears that points west, north and Northeast of NYC did fairly well...

Interesting event to say the least, but most of all, as everyone said, very difficult to predict..

jeff

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