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Just measured 5.7" on the deck here in Ridgefield... we have a few more hours to go and it is back to moderate so think we end up close to 7"... god it feels good to jackpot. It is absolutely gorgeous out here. Sorry to all the folks in the urban/coastal corridor who mixed/had sticking issues...

Measured 1.4" at 1:15 and 5.2" at 2:50... that's roughly 2.5"/hr. rates with that patch of dark green... Alpha can confirm. I was shocked that I got so much so quickly. :)

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That was some snow hole here earlier when the sun came out and the temperatures ticked up by a few degrees.

How long was it out for? I think I missed that, but I know it was dry for most of the morning with nothing falling after that initial burst that coated the ground around 7 am.

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How long was it out for? I think I missed that, but I know it was dry for most of the morning with nothing falling after that initial burst that coated the ground around 7 am.

It was out for a few minutes here before the clouds came back in again.

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With the 1.7 at NYC I think they're now within 0.5 inches of "normal" for the winter already.

Yeah according to the old, fake normal. The new 30-year normal is almost real but not quite there. NYC needs about 6" more, which will probably be done within the next week.

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Yeah according to the old, fake normal. The new 30-year normal is almost real but not quite there. NYC needs about 6" more, which will probably be done within the next week.

Tom,,

I think we have a shot of 2 to 4 here in W. Monmouth tommorow

What do you think?

Rossi

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Tom,,

I think we have a shot of 2 to 4 here in W. Monmouth tommorow

What do you think?

Rossi

Rossi, temps should be colder and precip steadier down here so definitely agree. 1-3/2-4 is a reasonable range right now, we'll see if 00z data tonight trends closer w/ the coastal low.

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2" here in north central NJ...and I am perfectly happy with what I got :)

Now on to the next storm...tomorrow? The NAM, NMM, GFS, and SREF barely show anything for us up here, and I know the ARW, Euro, and GGEM are much better in terms of QPF. Here are the numbers for storm #2:

ARW: right around 0.5

NMM: <0.1

NAM: <0.1

SREF: 0.1

GFS: 0.1

GGEM: I heard 0.25-0.4

Euro: not really sure

If someone could fill in the blanks for me that would be great. Thanks.

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The 18Z NAM and the 12Z Stony Brook MM5 both indicate that heavy snow for the South Fork early Sunday AM...when those 2 models agree on a feature like that it often needs to be examined closely....otherwise the 18Z NAM is sort of funny in how it hits coastal C-S NJ but screws everyone from there up until it hits E LI and SNE.

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2" here in north central NJ...and I am perfectly happy with what I got :)

Now on to the next storm...tomorrow? The NAM, NMM, GFS, and SREF barely show anything for us up here, and I know the ARW, Euro, and GGEM are much better in terms of QPF. Here are the numbers for storm #2:

ARW: right around 0.5

NMM: <0.1

NAM: <0.1

SREF: 0.1

GFS: 0.1

GGEM: I heard 0.25-0.4

Euro: not really sure

If someone could fill in the blanks for me that would be great. Thanks.

I saw the Euro was .25-.5 for NYC Metro.

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2" here in north central NJ...and I am perfectly happy with what I got :)

Now on to the next storm...tomorrow? The NAM, NMM, GFS, and SREF barely show anything for us up here, and I know the ARW, Euro, and GGEM are much better in terms of QPF. Here are the numbers for storm #2:

ARW: right around 0.5

NMM: <0.1

NAM: <0.1

SREF: 0.1

GFS: 0.1

GGEM: I heard 0.25-0.4

Euro: not really sure

If someone could fill in the blanks for me that would be great. Thanks.

First thing's first, in Central NJ, I recieved 2.5" of snow. Pretty nice, and it's sticking to all of the trees and bushes.

12Z ARW was a real surprise for the area.

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It gives NYC 5-8" and Central NJ 6-10." While it is interesting to look at, it is not likely to occur.

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Just a nice mini-event to watch unfold, heavy snow at one point in the City at 11 and 12, trees look beautiful with the wet snow. Just a nice sight to see the snow replenished across the area, and maybe more tomorrow, and next week as well. Just great to have snow like this over the last 2 weeks.

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

334 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

DEZ001-002-NJZ009-010-012>015-PAZ060-067>071-081000-

/O.NEW.KPHI.WW.Y.0002.110108T1500Z-110109T0600Z/

NEW CASTLE-KENT-HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX-WESTERN MONMOUTH-

EASTERN MONMOUTH-MERCER-BERKS-CHESTER-MONTGOMERY-BUCKS-DELAWARE-

PHILADELPHIA-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...DOVER...FLEMINGTON...

SOMERVILLE...NEW BRUNSWICK...FREEHOLD...SANDY HOOK...TRENTON...

READING...WEST CHESTER...NORRISTOWN...DOYLESTOWN...MEDIA...

PHILADELPHIA

334 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM SATURDAY TO 1 AM

EST SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER

WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM

SATURDAY TO 1 AM EST SUNDAY.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS: TWO TO FOUR INCHES.

* TIMING: BEGINNING OVER CENTRAL AND NORTHERN DELAWARE BY AROUND

10 AM SATURDAY AND SPREADING NORTHEAST THROUGH SOUTHEASTERN

PENNSYLVANIA AND NEW JERSEY BY EARLY AFTERNOON. ENDING EARLY IN

THE EVENING OVER CENTRAL AND NORTHERN DELAWARE AND LATER IN THE

EVENING ELSEWHERE.

* IMPACTS: SNOW WILL STICK TO ROADWAYS, ESPECIALLY UNTREATED ONES.

SNOWFALL RATES WILL CAUSE THE VISIBILITY TO DROP TO OR BELOW

ONE-HALF MILE ON OCCASION. DRIVING WILL BECOME DIFFICULT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR

FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR

SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE

DRIVING.

&&

$$

DEZ003-004-MDZ008-012-015-019-020-081000-

/O.NEW.KPHI.WW.Y.0002.110108T1200Z-110109T0300Z/

INLAND SUSSEX-DELAWARE BEACHES-CECIL-KENT MD-QUEEN ANNES-TALBOT-

CAROLINE-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GEORGETOWN...REHOBOTH BEACH...ELKTON...

CHESTERTOWN...CENTREVILLE...EASTON...DENTON

334 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TO 10 PM EST

SATURDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER

WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TO 10 PM

EST SATURDAY.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS: ONE TO THREE INCHES.

* TIMING: BEGINNING AROUND DAYBREAK AND LASTING THROUGH THE

AFTERNOON.

* IMPACTS: SNOW WILL STICK TO UNTREATED ROADWAYS. SNOWFALL RATES

WILL CAUSE THE VISIBILITY TO DROP TO OR BELOW ONE MILE ON

OCCASION. DRIVING WILL BECOME DIFFICULT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR

FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR

SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE

DRIVING.

&&

$$

NJZ016>027-081000-

/O.NEW.KPHI.WS.A.0001.110108T1500Z-110109T0600Z/

SALEM-GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-OCEAN-CUMBERLAND-

ATLANTIC-CAPE MAY-ATLANTIC COASTAL CAPE MAY-COASTAL ATLANTIC-

COASTAL OCEAN-SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...CAMDEN...

CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...JACKSON...MILLVILLE...

HAMMONTON...CAPE MAY COURT HOUSE...OCEAN CITY...ATLANTIC CITY...

LONG BEACH ISLAND...WHARTON STATE FOREST

334 PM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH

LATE SATURDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER

STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH

LATE SATURDAY NIGHT.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS: FOUR INCHES OR MORE.

* TIMING: BEGINNING OVER FAR SOUTHERN AND SOUTHWESTERN NEW JERSEY

BY AROUND 10 AM SATURDAY AND SPREADING NORTHEAST TO NEAR

INTERSTATE 195 BY AROUND NOON. ENDING IN THE EVENING.

* IMPACTS: SNOW WOULD STICK TO ROADWAYS, ESPECIALLY BUT NOT

EXCLUSIVELY UNTREATED ONES. SNOWFALL RATES WOULD CAUSE THE

VISIBILITY TO DROP TO OR BELOW ONE-HALF MILE FOR A PERIOD OF

TIME. DRIVING WOULD BECOME HAZARDOUS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.

CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

&&

$$

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Tomorrow's setup for NYC/LI as well as N-NJ depends alot on how fast that offshore surface low develops if you ask me...notice on the 12Z and 18Z runs of the NAM the spoke of vorticity that rotates NE from DE into NJ suddenly goes east towards the surface low from 30-36 on the 12Z NAM and 24-30 on the 18Z NAM...if that energy were to continue rotating NNE up the coast then a period of moderate snow could hit the above mentioned areas...however that energy is more likely to continue eastward or to jump closer to the coastal low if it gets going faster, hence resulting in a dead zone between SNJ and E LI

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For Toms River Area from Mt Holly

..WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS: FOUR INCHES OR MORE.

* TIMING: BEGINNING OVER FAR SOUTHERN AND SOUTHWESTERN NEW JERSEY BY AROUND 10 AM SATURDAY AND SPREADING NORTHEAST TO NEAR INTERSTATE 195 BY AROUND NOON. ENDING IN THE EVENING.

* IMPACTS: SNOW WOULD STICK TO ROADWAYS, ESPECIALLY BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY UNTREATED ONES. SNOWFALL RATES WOULD CAUSE THE VISIBILITY TO DROP TO OR BELOW ONE-HALF MILE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. DRIVING WOULD BECOME HAZARDOUS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

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