Nikolai Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Vote away! At this point, I think 20+ days with 1"+ is a good bet... I'll vote the last option. We've already had 5 days, including today, and the snow on Friday (hopefully) will keep us good till the next event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think NYC will have snow cover close to every day this month. We are still holding onto a few crusty inches of snowpack here in Westchester despite only receiving 13" in the blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think NYC will have snow cover close to every day this month. We are still holding onto a few crusty inches of snowpack here in Westchester despite only receiving 13" in the blizzard. Indeed, Central Park reported a 5" depth yesterday morning. Another fun question: how much does the park see in total snowfall this month? I think 10"+ is a safe bet, so I'll go with 15". I think there should be another major chance after our very cold period around the 25th-30th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Central Park 10 days City Streets 23 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Already at 17 counting today, 18 counting tomorrow (likely). We could see snowcover for the entire month if we hang on after tomorrow's storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Already at 17 counting today, 18 counting tomorrow (likely). We could see snowcover for the entire month if we hang on after tomorrow's storm. Central Park could easily get 20" snowfall this month with the Miller B/overrunning potential on Friday. Still almost a foot of snow cover here in Westchester as 14.5" fell Wednesday, and I'm not expecting to lose too much in this storm at 350' elevation as we can probably stay frozen for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Central Park 10 days City Streets 23 days I went for 26-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 were at 24 straight days now...pretty amazing. id say the last time we had snow on the ground this many consecutive days would have to be in 1993-94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zir0b Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 were at 24 straight days now...pretty amazing. id say the last time we had snow on the ground this many consecutive days would have to be in 1993-94 do you know what the record streak is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 do you know what the record streak is? no, but unc probably does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 do you know what the record streak is? right on cue- seems like 1947-48 had 58 straight days http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/6942-coldest-winter-since-late-1970s-and-1993-1994-upon-us/page__st__40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 There have been 2 longer streaks since 1993-94: 2003-04 - 25 days - 1/15 to 2/8 2002-03 - 26 days - 2/7 to 3/3 Note: I used data from LGA from 1996-2003; snowcover from Central Park is missing for those years in the data I have - via climate.usu.edu) were at 24 straight days now...pretty amazing. id say the last time we had snow on the ground this many consecutive days would have to be in 1993-94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 here is the list I compiled... season........Days ...............consecutive days....Max depth.. ...................T 1" 4" 10"20"........ T 1" 4" 10"20" 1913-14......57 32 22 06 0....... 34 30 14 04 0..... 13" 1917-18......84 57 29 00 0....... 68 30 16 00 0..... 09" 1919-20......92 67 36 02 0....... 61 55 28 02 0..... 12" 1922-23......71 54 22 00 0....... 24 19 06 00 0..... 08" 1925-26......65 33 16 06 2....... 30 23 15 05 2..... 20" 1933-34......71 47 28 06 0....... 32 16 12 04 0..... 13" 1940-41......56 27 08 01 0....... 14 12 04 02 0..... 13" 1947-48......83 65 54 33 5....... 65 58 53 16 5..... 26" 1948-49......50 30 17 03 0....... 11 10 10 03 0..... 14" 1949-50......29 09 00 00 0....... 03 03 00 00 0..... 03" 1950-51......45 13 00 00 0....... 16 04 00 00 0..... 03" 1951-52......40 14 02 00 0....... 06 04 01 00 0..... 06" 1952-53......38 08 01 00 0....... 07 03 01 00 0..... 04" 1953-54......32 14 10 00 0....... 16 11 10 00 0..... 09" 1954-55......35 13 00 00 0....... 06 04 00 00 0..... 03" 1955-56......51 20 08 02 0....... 11 08 07 02 0..... 13" 1956-57......52 18 04 00 0....... 11 06 02 00 0..... 06" 1957-58......69 37 17 01 0....... 23 09 06 01 0..... 10" 1958-59......45 19 01 00 0....... 12 10 01 00 0..... 05" 1959-60......61 27 10 06 0....... 13 09 06 04 0..... 15" 1960-61......77 52 41 20 3....... 38 32 30 10 3..... 24" 1961-62......59 26 04 00 0....... 17 10 03 00 0..... 06" 1962-63......62 23 07 00 0....... 13 11 07 00 0..... 04" 1963-64......76 42 21 05 0....... 27 14 08 05 0..... 13" 1964-65......58 31 06 00 0....... 28 13 03 00 0..... 06" 1965-66......38 23 09 00 0....... 24 19 07 00 0..... 07" 1966-67......64 34 16 05 0....... 16 10 08 05 0..... 13" 1967-68......44 23 01 00 0....... 15 15 01 00 0..... 06" 1968-69......55 33 20 08 0....... 32 24 17 07 0..... 15" 1969-70......71 47 08 00 0....... 39 35 04 00 0..... 06" 1970-71......58 11 03 00 0....... 20 04 03 00 0..... 06" 1971-72......60 21 06 00 0....... 12 08 03 00 0..... 05" 1972-73......30 03 00 00 0....... 03 02 00 00 0..... 02" 1973-74......57 38 07 00 0....... 20 17 07 00 0..... 06" 1974-75......35 10 03 00 0....... 06 05 03 00 0..... 08" 1975-76......41 27 03 00 0....... 12 08 02 00 0..... 04" 1976-77......69 47 09 00 0....... 53 37 07 00 0..... 06" 1977-78......94 56 30 12 0....... 67 35 20 06 0..... 18" 1978-79......42 23 09 03 0....... 18 17 04 03 0..... 16" 1979-80......36 10 01 00 0....... 07 03 01 00 0..... 04" 1980-81......49 27 05 00 0....... 25 21 03 00 0..... 08" 1981-82......48 24 12 01 0....... 17 17 08 01 0..... 10" 1982-83......34 22 10 06 0....... 18 16 09 06 0..... 19" 1983-84......54 28 12 00 0....... 17 16 06 00 0..... 07" 1984-85......44 25 10 00 0....... 31 13 09 00 0..... 07" 1985-86......41 15 08 00 0....... 14 12 06 00 0..... 06" 1986-87......49 31 12 00 0....... 19 17 11 00 0..... 09" 1987-88......49 31 10 00 0....... 18 16 09 00 0..... 09" 1988-89......23 07 02 00 0....... 04 03 02 00 0..... 05" 1989-90......46 16 02 00 0....... 06 04 02 00 0..... 05" 1990-91......27 13 06 00 0....... 04 04 02 00 0..... 08" Feb. LGA obs... 1991-92......36 11 02 00 0....... 07 04 02 00 0..... 06" 1992-93......49 21 06 01 0....... 10 09 05 01 0..... 10" 1993-94......95 74 31 08 3....... 76 40 13 08 3..... 22" 1994-95......33 15 12 01 0....... 16 15 12 01 0..... 10" 1995-96......72 55 35 14 6....... 18 17 12 10 6..... 25" LGA obs... 1996-97......35 08 00 00 0....... 04 02 00 00 0..... 03" LGA obs... 1997-98......27 02 01 00 0....... 03 02 01 00 0..... 04" LGA obs... 1998-99......29 10 01 00 0....... 04 03 01 00 0..... 04" LGA obs... 1999-00......40 23 08 00 0....... 24 19 05 00 0..... 06" LGA obs... 2000-01......57 33 17 02 0....... 18 16 11 02 0..... 13" LGA obs... 2001-02......22 03 00 00 0....... 04 03 00 00 0..... 03" LGA obs... 2002-03......71 42 23 05 1....... 26 25 12 05 1..... 20" LGA obs... 2003-04......50 36 20 02 0....... 28 25 08 01 0..... 11" LGA obs... 2004-05......59 41 20 02 0....... 22 16 13 02 0..... 10" LGA obs... 2005-06......32 19 06 03 1....... 12 12 05 04 1..... 16" LGA obs... 2006-07......31 15 02 00 0....... 07 05 02 00 0..... 05" 2007-08......30 08 04 00 0....... 04 04 04 00 0..... 06" 2008-09......47 32 07 00 0....... 06 06 03 00 0..... 08" 2009-10......45 29 23 08 1....... 15 12 11 04 1..... 21" 2010-11......30 24 20 08 1....... 24 24 12 07 1......20" as of 1/18 Trace days are days when a trace of snow was recorded or a trace was on the ground...Total days 1"-20" also... Lack of trace days in recent years makes me think a few are going undetected... Years ago snow depth was to the tenth of an inch...Later in one inch increments.... 1993-94 has the most 1" days...Most trace days and consecutive trace days... 1947-48 had the most consecutive 1" , 4" and 10" days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Unc - Check 1993-1994 again. Central Park only had 34 consecutive days with at least 1" snow cover according to the data I have (from http://climate.usurf.usu.edu/products/data.php) - from Jan 4 to Feb 6, 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Unc - Check 1993-1994 again. Central Park only had 34 consecutive days with at least 1" snow cover according to the data I have (from http://climate.usurf...oducts/data.php) - from Jan 4 to Feb 6, 1994. from 12/29 to 1/2 there was at least an inch on the ground...12/29 had 3.7" but it started after obs time...1/3 had a trace at obs time but 0.4" fell that day bringing an estimated half inch rounded to one inch...After that there was at least one inch until 2/7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I see what you're saying, but the only consistent measurements are the snow depth at observation time (12z). from 12/29 to 1/2 there was at least an inch on the ground...12/29 had 3.7" but it started after obs time...1/3 had a trace at obs time but 0.4" fell that day bringing an estimated half inch rounded to one inch...After that there was at least one inch until 2/7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I see what you're saying, but the only consistent measurements are the snow depth at observation time (12z). that would leave out days with an inch of snow that melted before obs time or accumulated after...I included them because how can you not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 that would leave out days with an inch of snow that melted before obs time or accumulated after...I included them because how can you not? I'd say for the same reason that you don't get to measure snowfall and clear the measuring surface as many times as you want. There is a measurement standard, and like it or not, right or wrong, we don't get to decide it, but it makes sense to try to keep measurement methods consistent over time. Otherwise you can't really compare data from one time period to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I'd say for the same reason that you don't get to measure snowfall and clear the measuring surface as many times as you want. There is a measurement standard, and like it or not, right or wrong, we don't get to decide it, but it makes sense to try to keep measurement methods consistent over time. Otherwise you can't really compare data from one time period to another. understood...That's why I explained my method for all those years...it inflated the numbers for each year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 that would leave out days with an inch of snow that melted before obs time or accumulated after...I included them because how can you not? I agree with your reasoning. If there was snow on the ground, it has to count. It DID snow that day, after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I agree with your reasoning. If there was snow on the ground, it has to count. It DID snow that day, after all! I think the snow obs were at midnight at one time...I'm not sure though...famartin might know if I'm right?...I think midnight should be the obs time for snow depth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Up to to 21/31 days so far this month now (today was the ...26th day in a row I believe?) of 1"+ in the park. Today had 6" as of measurement time. Should easily get to 30, if we do well on the Tuesday event I think 45+ is a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Up to to 21/31 days so far this month now (today was the ...26th day in a row I believe?) of 1"+ in the park. Today had 6" as of measurement time. Should easily get to 30, if we do well on the Tuesday event I think 45+ is a lock. counting 12/26 it's 27 in a row... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm not liking this but I think it's safe to say that this snowcover is here to stay until February. I don't think I ever experienced this before, I just want winter to end already lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm not liking this but I think it's safe to say that this snowcover is here to stay until February. I don't think I ever experienced this before, I just want winter to end already lol. we would need to get to February 21st with at least 1" on the ground to tie 1947-48's 58 straight...It had at least 1" on the ground from 12/23 to 2/18... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 If there is snow cover by 1/26, next Wednesday, then that will make 1 month of snow cover in NYC. Which will most likely happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 NYC has done it! As of today, with 17" on the ground in Central Park, NYC has seen 1" or greater snowcover every day of the month. Congrats to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 NYC has done it! As of today, with 17" on the ground in Central Park, NYC has seen 1" or greater snowcover every day of the month. Congrats to us! Can we break the 47-48 record? If we get the coastal next weekend, it's quite possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Can we break the 47-48 record? If we get the coastal next weekend, it's quite possible... 1947-48 had snow cover from 12/23 to 2/18...58 consecutive days...Highest snow depth 25" 12/27...13" 1/25...7"+ from 12/26 to 2/14... 2010-11 has snow cover from 12/26...We need to see the snow pack of at least 1" last until 2/21 to tie the record...Three more weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikehobbyst Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think our chance to break the record is very high with more of the same this month. Cold and more snow and mixed precip events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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