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Inverted Trough/ Redeveloper Disco Jan 7-9


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GFS and UK are similar, they both try to nail us with the 3rd system IMO. That's the great white hope....this run

I'm putting all my eggs in that 3rd system. I'm curious to see if the EURO picks this up. As far as the inverted trough/norlun is concerned...I'm not expecting more than an inch down here, to be honest.

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I'm putting all my eggs in that 3rd system. I'm curious to see if the EURO picks this up. As far as the inverted trough/norlun is concerned...I'm not expecting more than an inch down here, to be honest.

Same here. Trough be damned.

It's a high res vs low res deal, RGEM/NAM say no go on the 3d amigo.

I think the Euro may pick it up. UK is very close to a good hit from it. Both would hit north of Boston pretty hard.

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Some version of a low off the Carolinas, triggered by the last spike of energy just in advance of the PV. The high res short rangers shoot that energy out, the UK/GGEM/GFS to one extent or another try to bend it up in advance. Something to watch.

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Thanks...so much going on its hard to keep track lol

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Thanks for the heads up. :) It will depend upon whether I can find a divorce record in POU. If not then I have to try Carmel courthouse. I like going there...nice little village and very quiet relaxed county courthouse. Contract from the bustling urban places to the south....

Just watch out for that stretch of 84 between the Taconic and exit 18 where you'll be getting off. Dramatic jump in elevation and when you get to the top it's generally open to the N/NW and the wind whips around pretty good. The hill just east of the Tac is steep enough that the cars with marginal tires and drivers with marginal skills make a mess.

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Donnie Baseball AWT

Posted 49 minutes ago

After having seen the 12z NAM, RGEM, and GFS for the January 7-9, 2011 event, my initial thoughts in terms of snowfall accumulations are:

Albany: 6"-12"

Allentown: 3"-6"

Boston: 2"-4"

Caribou: 4"-8"

Concord: 4"-8"

Danbury: 3"-6"

Harrisburg: 1"-3"

Hartford: 3"-6"

Islip: 2"-4"

New York City: 2"-4"

Newark" 2"-4"

Philadelphia: 1"-3"

Pittsfield: 5"-10"

Poughkeepsie: 5"-10"

Providence: 2"-4"

White Plains: 3"-6"

Details are still subject to possible large changes in some cases depending on later data concerning mesoscale banding potential.

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I've detached from the pure weenieism and am enjoying how difficult this is. Hopefully a good learning experience but frankly the same setup would play out different enough that we'd never figure it out until the snow starts or has been going for awhile. Good luck to all!

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Thanks...so much going on its hard to keep track lol

Keep in mind invidual models have tried to key on either the 1st or 2nd spoke of energy. GFS has hinted at #3 for a day, first time we have multiple models on it. Kind of odd it's all lower res stuff, EC will be interesting could be a blip, if its not I'd say we have someone good to track aside of the "trough" which is just going to piss people off.

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The one thing this will have, is good ratios. That could really boost totals.

Yeah...whoever gets the bands will be in good lift and good snow growth by primarily deposition. My debate with him was actually on whether all of SNE should get WSWs. I actually agree with it for the western zones. Maybe more zones will get a WSW later as it may be a time period thing. We'll see.:snowman:
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I think the models are beginning to depict the H5 low as a stronger more bundled area of energy rather than a stretched out mess it was in yesterday's model runs. Right now it appears that if this energy can intensify a tad like the 12z NAM showed a moves to the south of the region we could get a nice snowstorm going from the third surface low, however lack of amplified ridging out west will like to downplay this potential and most likely it will move out to sea too far east to impact anyone. Trough snows are not going to favor SE MA and the CC and Islands. My best chance at snow is with the third system, and my chances are bleak with that system.

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Donnie Baseball AWT

Posted 49 minutes ago

After having seen the 12z NAM, RGEM, and GFS for the January 7-9, 2011 event, my initial thoughts in terms of snowfall accumulations are:

Albany: 6"-12"

Allentown: 3"-6"

Boston: 2"-4"

Caribou: 4"-8"

Concord: 4"-8"

Danbury: 3"-6"

Harrisburg: 1"-3"

Hartford: 3"-6"

Islip: 2"-4"

New York City: 2"-4"

Newark" 2"-4"

Philadelphia: 1"-3"

Pittsfield: 5"-10"

Poughkeepsie: 5"-10"

Providence: 2"-4"

White Plains: 3"-6"

Details are still subject to possible large changes in some cases depending on later data concerning mesoscale banding potential.

Portland, ME needs to make the list!

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If this was the old days of the NGM, it probably would have had just the one area of qpf broad brushed where the main inverted trough sets up and little depicted elsewhere. None of the multtude of qpf maxes that the models have been depicting. Life was simpler then and less angst ridden. LOL But of course I don't want to go back in time....just saying.

I've detached from the pure weenieism and am enjoying how difficult this is. Hopefully a good learning experience but frankly the same setup would play out different enough that we'd never figure it out until the snow starts or has been going for awhile. Good luck to all!

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