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NYC/PHL January 7-9 Potential Part Deux


NickD2011

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Yea, that was being shown on the modeling as getting up to a foot or snow-- at least part of ski country will do well. :thumbsup: Right in time for the weekend, too.

Do you have a take on next week's system? Some potential there?

I am going to Hunter saturday morning :thumbsup: that is not influencing my forecast LOL. Hopefully the roads will be ok by then, going to leave very early. As for next week the potential is there no doubt. I am actually more concerned that we have precip issues at the coast (at least to start) than the storm going OTS.

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Not really because DT goes with 1 to 3" just SW of the city (unless he updated this morning), Steve is going with 3 to 6 even way down into central NJ. Personally i'm planning on 1 to 3" and will be perfectly happy with that but ecstatic if we do get the 4+

His call for the Blizzard was better than most others actually, and he did well last year too. This call may bust though, but if he busts, then DT busts even worse.

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Not really because DT goes with 1 to 3" just SW of the city (unless he updated this morning), Steve is going with 3 to 6 even way down into central NJ. Personally i'm planning on 1 to 3" and will be perfectly happy with that but ecstatic if we do get the 4+

I agree, I'm hoping for an inch or two. Anything more would be a bonus.

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Am I seeing the same NAM everyone else is? I don't see what looks so "great" about this run. No one except for a small dot near Fairfield County, CT even hits 0.5" QPF. I mean I'll take 2-4", but I dunno...

Despite the NAMs more modest qpf since 0z I think the larger scale dynamics present especially in the mid and upper levels argue this band could get rather intense in a localized corridor. I would not be surprised if NAM and more so the regional high res models show an uptick in qpf in the next several runs. Of course this may not happen but I would actually be mored surprised if I did not seem at least some increase vs staying the same. All and all though it is the interior areas of higher terrian that will do the best. High Point NJ north to the Catskills. There will be 12"+ totals somewhere in there and I said it last night and still feel it that I will not be surprised come Saturday if a few reports of 15" and maybe even 20" come out of the Catskills region. A nice local snowstorm for a few and light to perhaps moderate event for most.

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Looks just like WAA off the water to me.

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The colder ocean temps definitely help in situations like these. Gernerally 36-37F water temps along the shore right now, so most places 5+ miles away from the beach should be able to stay around freezing when the pcpn comes down.

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Am I seeing the same NAM everyone else is? I don't see what looks so "great" about this run. No one except for a small dot near Fairfield County, CT even hits 0.5" QPF. I mean I'll take 2-4", but I dunno...

LOL exactly how I felt. I read a few encouraging posts before I saw the 12z NAM, only to look and see I was in the .1-.25 qpf with NYC BARELY on the .25 line...

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Looks like the Nam finally came back down to Earth. 2-4" is a good guess for most people, maybe locally 6" where banding holds on.

I still think a very thin band of 6"+ is possible in the highest QPF/best ratios area, probably the lower hudson valley at this point. But yeah, a general 2-4" looks reasonable for N/C NJ/NYC/LI.

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Even though we seem to be nailing down the orientation and location of this band I do not think we have nailied down the qpf. Still think it may trend heavier with in the core of the band. Perhaps a 25 mile wide core with in the general 50-75 wide band. Could still also be a few surprise as in only slight adjustments in its placement or intensity along with timing of intensity mean big differences on the local level. Again this will be a very nice localized snowstorm for a few.

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AM the ski regions really need this, so Im actually glad theyre getting hit. Hopefully we can cash in next week, but between cutter, hugger, coastal and OTS, we wont really know until this one is out of the way. A few of the mets have been saying that the weaker this one is, the more the next one might amplify. Is that a usual rule to follow?

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A few of the mets have been saying that the weaker this one is, the more the next one might amplify. Is that a usual rule to follow?

The implication is that the weaker this stays, the quicker the 50/50 that it becomes moves out, and therefore the more likely next week's system will have room to move up the coast.

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Those clown maps are taking into account the "warmer" boundary layer that would be found near the coast. I think it is greatly exaggerated in the same way it shows 2 feet of snow with almost every coastal at some place or another on the opposite side of the spectrum.

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People take what you can get and be happy the precip band is even being progged in you area. This could easily turn ugly with the slightest shift northeastward. My current mentality is that I don't expect to see any snow on the ground and whatever falls and sticks is a bonus.

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