rduwx Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Anyone out there see Fish on WRAL tonight at 6pm? I just got home from work and curious what he had to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Anyone out there see Fish on WRAL tonight at 6pm? I just got home from work and curious what he had to say. No, but from the storm thread someone said "weenies will not like." I have never been a fan of RAL, and the fishman. I listen to them on the morning drive here in Greenville from 7-8am, with there weather updates. They are, as are all the other broadcast mets, more concerned about covering there ass, and verification, vs expressing the potential. At this range, that is a safer call and understood. you have to understand that most, almost all of their audience is concerned about how it will impact me tomorrow, they could care less about H5, slp, and QPF. I have an open line to one of out Chiefs here in the east, and I have talked to him twice over the last 24hrs. Him and I are on the same page, but does that mean he will convey that to the general audience at this stage, absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozart Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Anyone out there see Fish on WRAL tonight at 6pm? I just got home from work and curious what he had to say. Very non-committal. He's not ready to bite just yet. Said a lot of possibilities are in play, but he clearly didn't want to describe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 No, but from the storm thread someone said "weenies will not like." I have never been a fan of RAL, and the fishman. I listen to them on the morning drive here in Greenville from 7-8am, with there weather updates. They are, as are all the other broadcast mets, more concerned about covering there ass, and verification, vs expressing the potential. At this range, that is a safer call and understood. you have to understand that most, almost all of their audience is concerned about how it will impact me tomorrow, they could care less about H5, slp, and QPF. I have an open line to one of out Chiefs here in the east, and I have talked to him twice over the last 24hrs. Him and I are on the same page, but does that mean he will convey that to the general audience at this stage, absolutely not. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Elizabeth Gardner in the mornings...I do like to hear what Fish has to say at 6pm. Lots of times you can tell if he's excited about an upcoming storm. I don't know a lot but I do know when they're throwing a bunch of bs around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozart Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Elizabeth Gardner in the mornings...I do like to hear what Fish has to say at 6pm. Lots of times you can tell if he's excited about an upcoming storm. I don't know a lot but I do know when they're throwing a bunch of bs around though. You can usually tell if there's any serious weather they plan to talk about, even before the weather segment gets good and started. Because if everything is tranquil (which is most of the time), they always stage a big giggle-fest between the anchors and the weather person. "Haa-ha-ha-ha, yuck, yuckity-yuck." To me it feels demeaning and manipulative. They don't generally do it if there's a real storm coming ... but otherwise, it's like the whole studio is on laughing gas. I speculate the giggle-fest is written as a requirement in their contracts, to give viewers that fake "member-of-the-family" feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 You can usually tell if there's any serious weather they plan to talk about, even before the weather segment gets good and started. Because if everything is tranquil (which is most of the time), they always stage a big giggle-fest between the anchors and the weather person. "Haa-ha-ha-ha, yuck, yuckity-yuck." To me it feels demeaning and manipulative. They don't generally do it if there's a real storm coming ... but otherwise, it's like the whole studio is on laughing gas. I speculate the giggle-fest is written as a requirement in their contracts, to give viewers that fake "member-of-the-family" feeling. http://www.wral.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 after finally being able to log on and catch up all i can say is LOL - brick you should have won weenie of the year! i dont care what others say, i am very much amused by most of your posts i am so glad to see the storm is still here, but am shocked over tomorrow's potential...guess i need to catch up on the models, etc. (although this area isnt in a good location for something like this) hard to believe the model consensus for sun/mon - i dont know i have ever seen that this far out, at lesat not in a long long time lets get ready to rock and roll later this weekend burger - excellent pic! if if if this pans out, this will become the year of the EPIC WIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 No, but from the storm thread someone said "weenies will not like." I have never been a fan of RAL, and the fishman. I listen to them on the morning drive here in Greenville from 7-8am, with there weather updates. They are, as are all the other broadcast mets, more concerned about covering there ass, and verification, vs expressing the potential. At this range, that is a safer call and understood. you have to understand that most, almost all of their audience is concerned about how it will impact me tomorrow, they could care less about H5, slp, and QPF. I have an open line to one of out Chiefs here in the east, and I have talked to him twice over the last 24hrs. Him and I are on the same page, but does that mean he will convey that to the general audience at this stage, absolutely not. I'm glad they play it conservative. As it is, people wildly inflate storm expectations on their own. Fishel will mention the possibility of snow a week away and the next day I already hear chatter from the general population talking about 6" of snow and blizzards and whatnot. The last thing we need is Greg putting out fantastical what-if scenarios to fill these people's imaginations with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Snippet from Mellish's blog post Unless something radical changes in the numerical equations output, which is possible because the storm is not yet into the data sampling network, some GA folk get out of school Monday. POSSIBLY a lot of folks. He's being pretty bullish, and understandably so since there really is high confidence of at least some sort of major frozen precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Snippet from Mellish's blog post Unless something radical changes in the numerical equations output, which is possible because the storm is not yet into the data sampling network, some GA folk get out of school Monday. POSSIBLY a lot of folks. He's being pretty bullish, and understandably so since there really is high confidence of at least some sort of major frozen precip. i noticed that. i guess the icing event in dec (that he fessed up to, to his credit) got his attention that this year, ga seems to be getting winter wx lol it does sort of scare me that so many are starting to get bullish this far out. lets hope it continues . . .and each day is one day closer to our se snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm hoping I get out of work Monday and Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Very non-committal. He's not ready to bite just yet. Said a lot of possibilities are in play, but he clearly didn't want to describe them. Of course they don't usually say anything unless they are 100% sure and it's the day before the storm. I wouldn't ecpect them to say anything until Saturday really, and not have any totals until Sunday night. The funny thing is there was an article on WRAL.com earlier today that had Elizabeth Gardner sounding pretty bullish on next week's snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm hoping I get out of work Monday and Tuesday. What kind of work do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 i noticed that. i guess the icing event in dec (that he fessed up to, to his credit) got his attention that this year, ga seems to be getting winter wx lol it does sort of scare me that so many are starting to get bullish this far out. lets hope it continues . . .and each day is one day closer to our se snowstorm I'm going ice skating with the girlfriend on Saturday...by Monday I might have my own redneck skating rink (my street!) . I'm amazed at how well this winter has gone, we've gotten close to our seasonal average already and at least look to get another couple inches here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Man, it seems each model run gives us less precip here for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Nevermind. Sounds like the NAM has some good precip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Man, it seems each model run gives us less precip here for Monday. Nevermind. Sounds like the NAM has some good precip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 sometimes panic is allowed (and even appropriate) but at least let the model run out far enough to get to the time the storm is supposed to be here then if there is no precip, panic away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It's too warm, it's too cold, not enough qpf, too much qpf, too fast, too slow, too weak, too strong... Some people need to step back from Lookout's cliff and check out at the overall picture instead of just one run of one model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 sometimes panic is allowed (and even appropriate) but at least let the model run out far enough to get to the time the storm is supposed to be here then if there is no precip, panic away I love the "NAM is showing less for our area on Monday" when it only goes out to 12z on Monday and the storm won't start for him until around 18z or 00z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaffneyPeach Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 You forgot one... I'm hoping I get out of work Monday and Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I love the "NAM is showing less for our area on Monday" when it only goes out to 12z on Monday and the storm won't start for him until around 18z or 00z. That's good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It's too warm, it's too cold, not enough qpf, too much qpf, too fast, too slow, too weak, too strong... Some people need to step back from Lookout's cliff and check out at the overall picture instead of just one run of one model. lol - yep. jeesh we are four days out, but so far its looking good. now issues arise on saturday, i may be at the edge with everyone else. but certainly not yet. soundings for n ga and the upstate show cold temps (surface below freezing) so at least somehting frozen is on the way I love the "NAM is showing less for our area on Monday" when it only goes out to 12z on Monday and the storm won't start for him until around 18z or 00z. its always funny how people do that - i mean you should at least wait until the model is out to the right time frame my real concern is what happens when the energy actually hits the coast and is onshore and thus sampled into the models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 its always funny how people do that - i mean you should at least wait until the model is out to the right time frame my real concern is what happens when the energy actually hits the coast and is onshore and thus sampled into the models We'll know at 12z and 00z tomorrow. To quote those MA and NE weenies "these will be the most important model runs of our life". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Foothills keeps hope alive for me. Theres absolutely no reason to be down. Everything looks just too good. I know its our nature to doubt, but this is one storm that is going to deliver in a mighty way for some folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Foothills keeps hope alive for me. Because he's a weenie. A cool weenie, but a weenie nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Dude, you're actually more annoying than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Dude, you're actually more annoying than me. that actually made me laugh out loud if things hold tomorrow and through sat. morning its going to get wild around here if we are that close to the event and its still holding on strong we should be good to go for an awesome winter storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Because he's a weenie. A cool weenie, but a weenie nonetheless. I'd put him in the "optimist" category (except when it comes to rainfall in Shelby in the summer!) but when he honks on a major storm like this, you better believe he has solid analysis and data backing him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'd put him in the "optimist" category (except when it comes to rainfall in Shelby in the summer!) but when he honks on a major storm like this, you better believe he has solid analysis and data backing him up. Yep. Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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