baroclinic_instability Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 They said the next draw will be nearly 420-430 million. I hope more then one person wins, that is WAY to much money for one person. It will probably be a 100 year old widow with no kids who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 It will probably be a 100 year old widow with no kids who wins. Lol, there was a local lotto show here years ago, kind of like a game show, and I swear every time a older person from Grosse Pointe (an affluent area of Metro Detroit) would always win. /OT The GGEM doesn't look terrible if the thing near Maine doesn't park there or if the Southern stream slows down a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 It will probably be a 100 year old widow with no kids who wins. If no one did in fact win tonight, the next jackpot will be the highest in history (previous being $390 million). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Lol, there was a local lotto show here years ago, kind of like a game show, and I swear every time a older person from Grosse Pointe (an affluent area of Metro Detroit) would always win. /OT The GGEM doesn't look terrible if the thing near Maine doesn't park there or if the Southern stream slows down a little. It doesn't have that vortex over the Lakes, but just looking at how disjointed that s/w over the Gulf looks in comparison to the main flow of westerlies, I think it'll be suppressed by a fair margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Lol, there was a local lotto show here years ago, kind of like a game show, and I swear every time a older person from Grosse Pointe (an affluent area of Metro Detroit) would always win. /OT The GGEM doesn't look terrible if the thing near Maine doesn't park there or if the Southern stream slows down a little. It's notably weaker and less phased, that's for sure. This run has pretty much joined the EURO too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 GEM may be the same for some, but the GEM has 6-8inches here and the GFS has 1 inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omahawx Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So the problem is that there is a low pressure over the great lakes that is suppressing this storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So the problem is that there is a low pressure over the great lakes that is suppressing this storm? You get snow on the GGEM at 108 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 now at 00z: What a killer, hundreds of miles SW over the lakes with the blocking. BLAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Good points. Yes great results for here but i do feel for the others ( bowme/ssc/se MI-OH crew etc ) away from the Lake influence who has also been shafted all winter up to this point. Hopefully they catch a break soon. Still would not totally write this off yet. Verbatum its actually potentially decent LES for DTW, wouldnt you say? But anyway theres no reason to write anything off, much less "totally write off". Its ridiculous really, 18z is a go, 00z is a big synoptic no-go. Change of tune in 6 hours for a storm a WEEK away. I said it yesterday, do you know how many times things will change? Probably will see Euro and GFS switch as they so often do (ie euro will not have a cutter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 now at 00z: What a killer, hundreds of miles SW over the lakes with the blocking. BLAH Finding different ways to put the screws to the Great Lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 well this system is looking to go down the hill thats covered in ice...and fast lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Verbatum its actually potentially decent LES for DTW, wouldnt you say? But anyway theres no reason to write anything off, much less "totally write off". Its ridiculous really, 18z is a go, 00z is a big synoptic no-go. Change of tune in 6 hours for a storm a WEEK away. I said it yesterday, do you know how many times things will change? Probably will see Euro and GFS switch as they so often do (ie euro will not have a cutter). With the NAM especially so yes ( Especially city on south-Your backyard ) and then somewhat the GFS. Granted the GFS is not the greatest for LES. As baro noted the models continue to be slower to move the stuff out up this way and thus it could really become one a heck of a event if that trend continues. I have not seen this before so it may be better to ask someone who has and or followed them. My guess is Dec 2001 might be the closest thing to what this could be? Gonna have to hunt down some images ( 500mb/surface etc ) from back then to see. All is still subject to change ofcourse. So i would not get excited yet. If the models are all showing this come tomorrows 00z run then yeah time to get excited as far as the LES goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Finding different ways to put the screws to the Great Lakes. Whether the 2 storms phase or not, if a storm is strong enough, shouldn't it be able to move or be able to take over the lefttover vortex over the lakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 With the NAM especially so yes ( Especially city on south-Your backyard ) and then somewhat the GFS. Granted the GFS is not the greatest for LES. As baro noted the models continue to be slower to move the stuff out up this way and thus it could really become one a heck of a event if that trend continues. I have not seen this before so it may be better to ask someone who has and or followed them. My guess is Dec 2001 might be the closest thing to what this could be? Gonna have to hunt down some images ( 500mb/surface etc ) from back then to see. All is still subject to change ofcourse. So i would not get excited yet. If the models are all showing this come tomorrows 00z run then yeah time to get excited as far as the LES goes. Its all so confusing LOL. So if we get good LES its bad news for the storm, and if we want the storm we have to hope the LES fails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I hate relying on LES, it can be very fickle here...if worse comes to worse, I'd hope for a I696/I6 to I94 deal With the NAM especially so yes ( Especially city on south-Your backyard ) and then somewhat the GFS. Granted the GFS is not the greatest for LES. As baro noted the models continue to be slower to move the stuff out up this way and thus it could really become one a heck of a event if that trend continues. I have not seen this before so it may be better to ask someone who has and or followed them. My guess is Dec 2001 might be the closest thing to what this could be? Gonna have to hunt down some images ( 500mb/surface etc ) from back then to see. All is still subject to change ofcourse. So i would not get excited yet. If the models are all showing this come tomorrows 00z run then yeah time to get excited as far as the LES goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Its all so confusing LOL. So if we get good LES its bad news for the storm, and if we want the storm we have to hope the LES fails? Actually the other way around. Well somewhat. What we don't want is the stuff over us dropping ese/se. Thats a total screw job. Equalls block for storm and shifts the LES into a more northerly event/nnw. Hanging out further north and then moving off ups the odd's of it getting out of the way quicker for the system but also better les result. STAYING PUT is great for LES but not as great for storm. Make sense? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Actually the other way around. Well somewhat. What we don't want is the stuff over us dropping ese/se. Thats a total screw job. Equalls block for storm and shifts the LES into a more northerly event/nnw. Hanging out further north and then moving off ups the odd's of it getting out of the way quicker for the system but also better les result. STAYING PUT is great for LES but not as great for storm. Make sense? lol Somewhat makes sense to me LOL. Like Ive said over and over, Im a big climo expert, but in the end of the day, outside qpf, Im really a sort of a novice when it comes to model interpretation. FWIW, the GEM likes the 94 lake effect too (this is after a shortwave looks to drop light snow on all of MI tomorrow night), and it has a long duration light snow event at the beginning of next week, so not supression. On the order of 0.25-0.50" qpf with the storm next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 it looks like Ottawa may just get side swiped by the storm next week, which is old news for us this winter. Perhaps we should go for the least snowiest winter record this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 ECM pretty much holds serve through 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 0z GEM still a nice hit for the NE/IA members with it weakening as it heads further east and the southern low taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Meh, still too early to buy anything concrete yet. Still plenty of time for a less supressed solution. Wouldn't be surprised to see more radical changes tomorrow, including the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 0z GEM still a nice hit for the NE/IA members with it weakening as it heads further east and the southern low taking over. I don't think the GEM will be right. It still hasn't corrected itself from its ridiculous 12Z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 ECM pretty much holds serve through 96. It looks a bit quicker though with moving the stuff out of this area/GL. Never mind. I see it hangs some of the crap back out this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 It looks a bit quicker though with moving the stuff out of this area/GL. Clear difference at 500mb by 120hrs. Vortex does not hold on in the Lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 72 hour euro: -10c 850s 96 hour euro: -15c 850s I don't have to look at precip maps..I can assure you that means we will be bone dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneyman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Baro is mr optimistic tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneyman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Atlanta is getting crushed at 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Atlanta is getting crushed at 120. 0C runs right through downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 This morning some were fearing the Euro would show a cutter. Instead the opposite is happening. Just shows how much of a wide variation of solutions are still probable. I think we'll end up seeing more of a blend of the Euro and GEM personally. I just can't see this thing creeping along the gulf, but also don't see it being all that far north as well. It's going to be an interesting next couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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