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Jan 11-12 Model/Forecasting Discussion


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But he might have been stupid so early in the game. Still to get a really big storm the upper lows going to have to close off. Neither the euro or GFS show that solution but the nogaps sure does and the ggem looks pretty wet. I'll be writing something for CWG later this morning.

Looking forward to it, thank you.

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But he might have been stupid so early in the game. Still to get a really big storm the upper lows going to have to close off. Neither the euro or GFS show that solution but the nogaps sure does and the ggem looks pretty wet. I'll be writing something for CWG later this morning.

wes, how come there is never a "::heavyt snow warning'"' posted anymore like there ustedtobe in earlier forecasting days. That was the sign of a true monster on the way.

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wes, how come there is never a "::heavyt snow warning'"' posted anymore like there ustedtobe in earlier forecasting days. That was the sign of a true monster on the way.

You didn't read the public statement a while back? Winter Storm Warning now covers "snow adv/hvy snow warning" simplified for public reasons.

Why do you think last year there were never heavy snow warnings lol.

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It looks very uncertain as to what would happen with the NAM ater the 84 h panel, if were to materialize. Looking at the upper air maps it seems like the energy is trying to make things interesting and could make it in time to pull the storm up the coast. The potential is definitely still there and that's all I'm really looking for.

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i dunno how they choose those analogs -- tho it's not shocking since it was spitting out 83 as an analog prior. in the southern stream it might sorta similar initially but doesnt look terribly like those storms last yr to me...

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It looks very uncertain as to what would happen with the NAM ater the 84 h panel, if were to materialize. Looking at the upper air maps it seems like the energy is trying to make things interesting and could make it in time to pull the storm up the coast. The potential is definitely still there and that's all I'm really looking for.

Same. I think the SLP is just off the SC coast... but I see alot of energy coming east in the Plains

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It looks very uncertain as to what would happen with the NAM ater the 84 h panel, if were to materialize. Looking at the upper air maps it seems like the energy is trying to make things interesting and could make it in time to pull the storm up the coast. The potential is definitely still there and that's all I'm really looking for.

Yeah the northern energy is really digging hard and trying to make it interesting. The bad news is, the southern piece is a little faster and more suppressed.

Gonna be fascinating to watch and see if they can get together over the next few days.

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It looks very uncertain as to what would happen with the NAM ater the 84 h panel, if were to materialize. Looking at the upper air maps it seems like the energy is trying to make things interesting and could make it in time to pull the storm up the coast. The potential is definitely still there and that's all I'm really looking for.

Well said. Hard to tell now but the 84 panel isn't nearly as bad as I thought it could be based on earlier panels.

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I think the NAM is setting us up for some variation of the 06z GFS. I could see a fairly long duration light snowfall event as the systems "connect", with a moderate burst near the end as we get the vort energy through.

That's what I was thinking...NAM doesn't look terrible. Maybe a solid 3 to 6 inch snowfall for those north of NC

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Yeah the northern energy is really digging hard and trying to make it interesting. The bad news is, the southern piece is a little faster and more suppressed.

Gonna be fascinating infuriating to watch and see if they can get together over the next few days.

Had to do it.

Southern piece stays slow and/or the northern piece speeds up a bit, and we're looking good. It doesn't really seem like there's much that needs to happen to increase our chances dramatically of a decent snowfall. Probably easier said than done, though. I guess.

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I think the NAM is setting us up for some variation of the 06z GFS. I could see a fairly long duration light snowfall event as the systems "connect", with a moderate burst near the end as we get the vort energy through.

But the 500 mb chart is almost the same as the 00z GFS?

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You didn't read the public statement a while back? Winter Storm Warning now covers "snow adv/hvy snow warning" simplified for public reasons.

Why do you think last year there were never heavy snow warnings lol.

no sir, I was too busy taking care of my mother who has terminal cancer now!!! I had better things to do. And dig her out of 3ft of snow.

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the really additional bad thing is that my father is cripple from old age. Family is dying. We do the best as siblings to take care of them. Thanks. Not trying to be macabe here.

Sorry to hear all this. Thanks for posting this though. Sometimes I need to be reminded that there are much more important things than weather.

Sorry, I know this isn't storm related. Maybe, though, we can all keep it in perspective.

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wes, how come there is never a "::heavyt snow warning'"' posted anymore like there ustedtobe in earlier forecasting days. That was the sign of a true monster on the way.

They opted for winter storm watches and warnings instead. I think it was a headquarters type decision. I'm not sure why, I liked the heavy snow and hazardous warning of old.

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