yoda Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Moisture anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Dudes...I don't know about yall, but the NAM looks "special" to me. yeth it does randy it look very SPETHIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Man...84h looks juicy. /drool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Unless I am mistaken, doesn't buckeye usually wishcast for this kind of thing? hijack any one of the plethra of MA posts by you or any other MA weenie regarding a threat and copy and paste it in someone elses regional thread and it too would become a wishcast. But since Ji has some strange need to troll our region and myself, let me clarify. I believe this comes up as a double-barreled low. One up or just west of the apps, the other along the coast. This is not a wishcast, it's something that some of the models are showing....even the 00z euro showed a very weak version of this. IF that happens, I believe the low to the west may prog stronger and further nw....not based on wishcasting, but on the history of watching these events unfold on the models for the last 10 years. It seems whenever there's a double barrel low on the models, the trend seems to favor a stronger western reflection and a longer period before it transfers. Of course the whole idea of a double low may fall apart too, no guarantees....but we all know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 yeth it does randy it look very SPETHIAL Shining up the short bus? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I need Wes to make a comment before I reserve my seat on the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Dudes...I don't know about yall, but the NAM looks "special" to me. Again, I know..its Nam past 48/60..but it has that look...where the hell is wes? Wesley only shows up when its bad news so take it as a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Wesley only shows up when its bad news so take it as a good sign He was a bit excited yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 not to be a wet blanket but this thing is still 5 days away...just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 yeth it does randy it look very SPETHIAL Girlfriend, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 not to be a wet blanket but this thing is still 5 days away...just sayin' Yeah, but at least its in the 96-108 hr range... not 7 days away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 not to be a wet blanket but this thing is still 5 days away...just sayin' Careful. You may be attacked by a mob with pitchforks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 where is josh nice eyewall on the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 hijack any one of the plethra of MA posts by you or any other MA weenie regarding a threat and copy and paste it in someone elses regional thread and it too would become a wishcast. But since Ji has some strange need to troll our region and myself, let me clarify. I believe this comes up as a double-barreled low. One up or just west of the apps, the other along the coast. This is not a wishcast, it's something that some of the models are showing....even the 00z euro showed a very weak version of this. IF that happens, I believe the low to the west may prog stronger and further nw....not based on wishcasting, but on the history of watching these events unfold on the models for the last 10 years. It seems whenever there's a double barrel low on the models, the trend seems to favor a stronger western reflection and a longer period before it transfers. Of course the whole idea of a double low may fall apart too, no guarantees....but we all know that. You are the biggest troll on the weather side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The NAM looks wicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I me some buckeye apps runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 hijack any one of the plethra of MA posts by you or any other MA weenie regarding a threat and copy and paste it in someone elses regional thread and it too would become a wishcast. But since Ji has some strange need to troll our region and myself, let me clarify. I believe this comes up as a double-barreled low. One up or just west of the apps, the other along the coast. This is not a wishcast, it's something that some of the models are showing....even the 00z euro showed a very weak version of this. IF that happens, I believe the low to the west may prog stronger and further nw....not based on wishcasting, but on the history of watching these events unfold on the models for the last 10 years. It seems whenever there's a double barrel low on the models, the trend seems to favor a stronger western reflection and a longer period before it transfers. Of course the whole idea of a double low may fall apart too, no guarantees....but we all know that. actually Buckeye, I don't disagree at all with you on the double barrel storm idea how it plays out for OH and MA is still in question although I can't name a particular storm, I do recall a few double barrel systems giving your area and ours substantial snows with the Apps protecting us until the coastal ultimately takes over I'd take my chances with that scenario...in fact, that's what the GFS was showing at 12Z a couple days ago when many in the MA feared a changeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Man...84h looks juicy. /drool it looks juicy but all models show this juice. Dosent mean it will come up the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I like this too, but my concern remains that it may stay too far south we may end up rooting for the northern stream storm (or double barreled idea) on to help bring it north http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/index_500_l_loop.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 actually Buckeye, I don't disagree at all with you on the double barrel storm idea how it plays out for OH and MA is still in question although I can't name a particular storm, I do recall a few double barrel systems giving your area and our substantial snows with the Apps protecting us until the coastal ultimately takes over I'd take my chances with that scenario...in fact, that's what the GFS was showing at 12Z a couple days ago when many in the MA feared a changeover The concept of a primary going inland with a jump is pretty much dead. Buckeye sees inland runners in every run. This low stays together from the GOM up the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 hijack any one of the plethra of MA posts by you or any other MA weenie regarding a threat and copy and paste it in someone elses regional thread and it too would become a wishcast. But since Ji has some strange need to troll our region and myself, let me clarify. I believe this comes up as a double-barreled low. One up or just west of the apps, the other along the coast. This is not a wishcast, it's something that some of the models are showing....even the 00z euro showed a very weak version of this. IF that happens, I believe the low to the west may prog stronger and further nw....not based on wishcasting, but on the history of watching these events unfold on the models for the last 10 years. It seems whenever there's a double barrel low on the models, the trend seems to favor a stronger western reflection and a longer period before it transfers. Of course the whole idea of a double low may fall apart too, no guarantees....but we all know that. Antecedent cold air may mitigate any double barreled issue-- or it could just have a huge invert troff sticking up due to the diving SW out of the PAC nw-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I like this too, but my concern remains that it may stay too far south we may end up rooting for the northern stream storm (or double barreled idea) on to help bring it north http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/index_500_l_loop.shtml No way. I won't ever root for some double-barreled BS with a jump. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Man...84h looks juicy. /drool Can we say redux of your clown map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 it looks juicy but all models show this juice. Dosent mean it will come up the coast Totally. But the timing/connection between the northern and southern energy looks - if anything - slightly better this run as well. And more moisture is always good to see, imo - only positive conclusions to draw from that regarding future evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The concept of a primary going inland with a jump is pretty much dead. Buckeye sees inland runners in every run. This low stays together from the GOM up the coast. nah, I don't agree if you look at this 5H map, you can clearly see the southern stream vort and the northern one diving south without that northern one helping to raise heights along the coast, I think the southern vort has a a higher probability of sliding ots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowsonWeather Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Can we say redux of your clown map? Hehe - the best part about that clown map was that it actually verified for us! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 No way. I won't ever root for some double-barreled BS with a jump. No way. if that's the best we can do this year, its the best we can do usually, they are pretty juicy yes, we flirt w/a changeover, but I just want as much snow as possible and I'll deal with mixing issues obviously I prefer all snow, just saying whatever it takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I like this too, but my concern remains that it may stay too far south we may end up rooting for the northern stream storm (or double barreled idea) on to help bring it north http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/index_500_l_loop.shtml i like this loop BOOM? http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/index_ref_s_loop.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This is kind of stupid, but imagine this fantasy. What if.......what if the 6Z GFS was exactly right all the way out to 384 hours. Imagine what would be said about January.....after it happened. We'd be comparing every winter to this January for years. But, back to reality. We are at day 21 since the last accumulating snow here in NoVa. Maybe we can make up for it over the next 21. I still don't understand LWX's forecast for my area tonight and tomorrow. What are they seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 if that's the best we can do this year, its the best we can do usually, they are pretty juicy yes, we flirt w/a changeover, but I just want as much snow as possible and I'll deal with mixing issues obviously I prefer all snow, just saying whatever it takes I feel the same too. If we can get something perfect, something close enough to the coast for good precip, good temps, fine, great. But if we can't, then bring in the TN/OV runner with a transfer. You're right, they bring in precip. If I deal with a changeover AFTER it snows, then that's better than cold and no snow at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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