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Jan 11-12 Model/Forecasting Discussion


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That's good and supports bumping the pops some. I think we're going with 60% chance of an inch or more and 1-3 for the most likely amounts.

euro makes me hesitant to drop to 1-3 areawide but for a public forecast it's probably better to go up than down. ;) plus daytime snow miht have trouble..tho looks mostly overnight

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For snow? or a big snow? If you are referring to more than 4i inches I agree. If you think we cna't get an inch, then I disagree.

Correct, I should have specified for "significant" snow. We could get 1-2" maybe 3 with the setup currently. I am talking about what we need if we want something of significance.

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im glad.. they were so burned last yr, this is great news for everyone

really, the only thing that bugs me about NE posters is that they cried and cried how they got screwed last year and BOS still got close to 40"

they still have no clue what a real screwing is like (how we get screwed w/1-2" for the season) and they think we whine too much

not all, but many of the real weenies are, for lack of a better word, bigger pu$$ie$ than anyone on this board

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I think we've taken positive steps this morning.

Seems like the track remained similar but qpf field expanded and increased some....euro did this last year as well closer to the events. This is probably close to what to expect but I would think there may be some room for a tad more improvement for the precip totals

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Correct, I should have specified for "significant" snow. We could get 1-2" maybe 3 with the setup currently. I am talking about what we need if we want something of significance.

2 things. One, a 3 inch snow is significant this year. Two, do you foresee any possibilities or practical ways that backside energy can do the things you would like to see?

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euro makes me hesitant to drop to 1-3 areawide but for a public forecast it's probably better to go up than down. ;) plus daytime snow miht have trouble..tho looks mostly overnight

We've already done that but put some wiggle room in. I don't think this is more than a 10 or 11-1 ratio event so even the euro probably only gives us around 4.

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really, the only thing that bugs me about NE posters is that they cried and cried how they got screwed last year and BOS still got close to 40"

they still have no clue what a real screwing is like (how we get screwed w/1-2" for the season) and they think we whine too much

not all, but many of the real weenies are, for lack of a better word, bigger ******* than anyone on this board

When they see the Mid-Atlantic get 4 feet of snow in the span of 5 days, while they get nothing more than an inch or two of slop in the same period, they WILL get mad.

Not to mention seeing NYC get 20" later that month while they get heavy rain and floods.

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really, the only thing that bugs me about NE posters is that they cried and cried how they got screwed last year and BOS still got close to 40"

they still have no clue what a real screwing is like (how we get screwed w/1-2" for the season) and they think we whine too much

not all, but many of the real weenies are, for lack of a better word, bigger pu$ie$ than anyone on this board

The time frame that destroys up there is still in the potential waffle zone...still time for things to change up there...maybe for the better or worse

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We've already done that but put some wiggle room in. I don't think this is more than a 10 or 11-1 ratio event so even the euro probably only gives us around 4.

yeah that makes sense

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When they see the Mid-Atlantic get 4 feet of snow in the span of 5 days, while they get nothing more than an inch or two of slop in the same period, they WILL get mad.

Not to mention seeing NYC get 20" later that month while they get heavy rain and floods.

why should they get mad?? most of the time they get it one way or another???? One winter in the last 100 and we get a lot, and they get mad?? every damn clipper that misses us gets them.

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The time frame that destroys up there is still in the potential waffle zone...still time for things to change up there...maybe for the better or worse

no I agree 100%

BOS was supposed to get 2-4" overnight based on computer runs at the end of the day yesterday and I doubt they saw an inch

the computers have been horrible all winter, but at least the surrounding areas have seen snow even with the lousy forecasts, unlike us

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2 things. One, a 3 inch snow is significant this year. Two, do you foresee any possibilities or practical ways that backside energy can do the things you would like to see?

I do not change my idea of what a significant storm is based on the winter. Sure it could happen, the models just have to be wrong with the track of the H5 low by about 100 miles. From 60 hours out still that is not impossible. Until today they were trending in the wrong direction with that. 12z put a halt to that but still we need it to shift back again to a track over DC not central PA. It could happen but unfortunately the reason so many are throwing in the towel on that idea and you do not see more waiting to see that adjustment is the normal model error on H5 lows is to be too far south, not north. This makes a shift back south less likely. Not impossible, just unlikely.

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no I agree 100%

BOS was supposed to get 2-4" overnight based on computer runs at the end of the day yesterday and I doubt they saw an inch

the computers have been horrible all winter, but at least the surrounding areas have seen snow even with the lousy forecasts, unlike us

someone nyc to bos will get 18+.. book it

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