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NYC/PHL January 7-9 Potential Part I


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I am not sure how you analyze the pattern without some sort of model input in a longer range. The upcoming pattern looks cold and stormy but one can only deduce that by looking at longer range modeling. Sure shorter range fluctuations will cause downstream chaos that is to be expected but those variables need to be accounted for.

Not disagreeing with that at all but if you are going to worry about what 168 + progged storm shows as far as details etc are concerned then you probably need to step away from the models. Simply put if a model is not consistent and is having trouble with a short term storm ...then one has to realize they are going to have the same trouble with long term storms. It would be much wiser and prudent to look to the pattern instead of the specific details that 6 hrs later are going to change in H5 position as well as at the surface...

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1-3" for Philly and suburbs seems to be a good early call. Agree?

yup...all depends on where that inverted trof kicks in..last two runs have it over li into sw ct and southern ny...great things with those is that u never no where they will set up pretty hard to accurately forecast. Everyone is game from phl to boston, but the further northeast the better chance...still looks like a solid 1-3 with arctic front.

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These NORLUN toughs are crazy, have the potential to produce up to 2 feet in localized areas theyre almost like a lake effect snow band for coastal areas...either way if totals like that were to happen with this storm will probably be north of NYC based on current model runs and climo.

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thx tombo....your pbp is always a great. You think ratios will be better than 10:1?? I was thinking 12-15:1 might be more in play? Your thoughts?

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i dunno, surface temps are around freezing in the cities, 850's are around -7 or so....id still lean more towards a 10-12 to 1. Look at last storm it was pretty cold and most stations were around 11 to 1 ratios.

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thx tombo....your pbp is always a great. You think ratios will be better than 10:1?? I was thinking 12-15:1 might be more in play? Your thoughts?

Nut

Ratios should be very good but dont worry so much about qpf outputs right snow.. everyone should get their 1-2" but where that inverted trough sets up is where the money is

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i dunno, surface temps are around freezing in the cities, 850's are around -7 or so....id still lean more towards a 10-12 to 1. Look at last storm it was pretty cold and most stations were around 11 to 1 ratios.

The wind killed the ratios last storm I believe, wind is not nearly as much of a factor with this storm, although you are right it will be a bit warmer in the lower layers

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i dunno, surface temps are around freezing in the cities, 850's are around -7 or so....id still lean more towards a 10-12 to 1. Look at last storm it was pretty cold and most stations were around 11 to 1 ratios.

I'll take your word for it....back here in LNS we barely had a dusting.. I'm basing my guess on lack of warm advection round here (unless the Norlun comes a little south of current NYC and north keeping us on the colder side at all layers.

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