snowstormcanuck Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think the GGEM is the only model showing this dual low scenario: Looks kind of weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 So many clippers/impulses to keep track of. Regardless, looks like they'll all stay to the north of here. Should be good times for MN, WI, MI, ON, etc. I dont know if theyll all stay north...the first one will stay too north, even for me, but I just hope the 2nd (or 3rd whichever it is) doesnt go too far south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think the GGEM is the only model showing this dual low scenario: Looks kind of weird. Nah its the big FU to Michigan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's rare to see snow in the teens to lower 20's around this area. That usually happens in minnesota and the upper midwest. So while precip amounts dont look to be impressive it wont take much to add up, especially if we can get some moisture pulled into one of these. I just hope the air wont be too dry and we get virga for a long period. Wow have to disagree with you on this one. I cant remember a winter when we havent had SEVERAL snowfalls with temps in the upper teens and low 20s. I remember the snowstorm of Feb 13/14, 2007 that dropped 8.5", it occurred with temps in the high single digits to low teens the entire storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Wow have to disagree with you on this one. I cant remember a winter when we havent had SEVERAL snowfalls with temps in the upper teens and low 20s. I remember the snowstorm of Feb 13/14, 2007 that dropped 8.5", it occurred with temps in the high single digits to low teens the entire storm. Almost a foot of snow with temps at 12-14 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Nah its the big FU to Michigan... no suprise wth all the "blocking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 0z GEM with the nice little clipper at the end of the week, going to be interesting to watch how all these little impulses play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Nothing earth shattering from the 12z GFS with the series of impulses so far through 108 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 Nothing earth shattering from the 12z GFS with the series of impulses so far through 108 hours. One of those blows up off the coast to bury Boston, then assures that the big storm developing in the Plains at D5 gets quashed like a bug. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Seems like thats been the story for the first month of winter. If its not a block its a bomb off the coast prohibiting anything from going ne or strengthening as it comes east. That's why Minnesota and the Dakotas have been doing so good. Hopefully things change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 12z Euro pretty enthusiastic for the Jan 7-8th clipper. 996mb low over NE IL/NW IN at 0z Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Whoops, forgot we had this thread. Euro is way different than the 00z run. Timing/strength of each wave is an absolute mess right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Swath of 0.25-0.5" QPF from MSP to MSN/MKE to ORD to SW MI to FWA to much of OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Swath of 0.25-0.5" QPF from MSP to MSN/MKE to ORD to SW MI to FWA to much of OH. Not too far from us. Euro has had a little bit of a northward bias with systems like this so far this winter so we'll see. It's just hard to trust anything right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Not too far from us. Euro has had a little bit of a northward bias with systems like this so far this winter so we'll see. It's just hard to trust anything right now. Yeah, it's a chaotic pattern it seems. Trust no model...hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Friday the EURO has something cooking! .40 QPF CMH .33 DAY .23 CVG .17 IND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 1-3 inches (3-8cm) across the border region of NY/ON/QC tonight into tomorrow. first W-E moving synoptic snow system to affect the region since january 2009. (extremely disturbing) first clipper to impact region since december 2008. :arrowhead: more snow later this week likely, amounts unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 Radar returns for this first clipper are looking pretty anemic attm. H5/sfc center still over WI. Might be one of those cases where when the storm passes over the GLs it'll pick up a bit of moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 00z Euro much more tame with the event around 96 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 0.2" from this first hunk of crap. I guess it can only get better with the second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 0.2" from this first hunk of crap. I guess it can only get better with the second one. 2.3cm here. The ground is covered in white again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 A whopping 0.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 A whopping 0.3" Same here. Got another 0.1" while I slept, but it's already starting to melt under some dim sunshine. Maybe some wandering LES this evening can put over 10" for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just another trace of snow here. All I expected though this far "south". Day #4 now with bare ground and seems like an eternity LOL. Last measurable snow was Dec 26th with 0.2", last time we had to shovel was with the inch of fluff on Dec 22nd, though really you could get away with only having to shovel one time, that being the Dec 12th snowstorm. Funny thing is though I was chipping at the bottom of the driveway 2 weeks later with that glued on ice/snow. Its funny actually, because imby this is not a SE MI winter....its like a mix of east coast and a northern Minnesota winter. I say east coast because we had a literally gridlocking snowstorm followed by almost nothing. I say Minnesota because we had the cold and the snowcover did not budge, but everything was going to our south. We did get our usual flakes in the air all the time, but thats about the only thing that has resembled a SE MI winter so far lol. It is going to change though, and very soon I think... Oh, and for the hell of it, the 12z NAM has TSSN around hour 63-66 for both BTL and DTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm quite impressed by the lake effect today, and we'll have some daytime heating to boost the convective instability on this side of the state along with another shortwave coming through during peak heating. I wouldn't be surprised if a few areas overachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 The 2nd event is starting to look fairly impressive. I think you can throw QPF maps out with this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2-4/3-6 type event along the track of the 500mb low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 There could also be a second area of accumulating snow along the nose of some jet energy diving down the backside of the ul trough: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 There could also be a second area of accumulating snow along the nose of some jet energy diving down the backside of the ul trough: Lol at being in the screw zone again per the GFS precip map, along with buckeye, LAF and Northern IL. Oh well, it's only 1-2", vs. 3-5". I'm looking forward to possibly a great LES setup this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MIZ074&warncounty=MIC075&firewxzone=MIZ074&local_place1=Jackson+MI&product1=Special+Weather+Statement SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI 1130 AM EST TUE JAN 4 2011 MIZ058-059-065>067-071>074-041730- BARRY-CALHOUN-CLINTON-EATON-INGHAM-IONIA-JACKSON-KALAMAZOO-VAN BUREN- 1130 AM EST TUE JAN 4 2011 ...SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY... AT 1130 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A 15 MILE WIDE BAND OF HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM 10 MILES WEST OF LANSING TO 10 MILES NORTHEAST OF BATTLE CREEK TO 5 MILES NORTHWEST OF KALAMAZOO TO HARTFORD...MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 20 MPH. VISIBILITIES OF ONE HALF MILE OR LESS ARE POSSIBLE AS THIS BAND OF SNOW SHOWERS MOVES THROUGH. ACCORDING TO ALLEGAN COUNTY CENTRAL DISPATCH... THE VISIBILITY DROPPED TO NEAR ZERO AND THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH OF SNOW FELL IN ABOUT 40 MINUTES. SOME CAR ACCIDENTS WERE REPORTED UNDER THIS SNOW BAND. LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... BEDFORD... AUGUSTA... KALAMAZOO... BELLEVUE... LAWRENCE... HARTFORD... OSHTEMO... AUGUSTA... WAVERLY... POTTERVILLE... CHARLOTTE... PAW PAW... GALESBURG... OLIVET... SPRINGFIELD... PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... BE PREPARED FOR ROADS TO BECOME SNOW COVERED AND SLIPPERY IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. UP TO ONE INCH OF SNOW MAY ACCUMULATE IN ONE HOUR. EXPECT ABRUPT WHITEOUTS WITH LIMITED VISIBILITIES...SO USE EXTREME CAUTION WHILE DRIVING. && $$ MEADE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 Lol at being in the screw zone again per the GFS precip map, along with buckeye, LAF and Northern IL. Oh well, it's only 1-2", vs. 3-5". I'm looking forward to possibly a great LES setup this weekend. Sorry, I shouldn't have limited where I thought the "accumulating" snow was going to occur to those two locations. You'll get into the action too, but the GFS paints you into a little bit of a minima. I think the GGEM might be further north with that jet streak zone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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